▲ 714 ▼ it could happen to you rule (lemmy.cafe) submitted 2 years ago* by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone 143 comments fedilink hide all child comments see if your instance is one of them here: https://fedipact.veganism.social/
[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) but that doesn't really happen in a decentralized model. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Skaxen@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html That's exactly what happens in a decentralized model. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* Stop posting this unless you have an actual argument as to why it's not just FUD. This dumbass blogpost has been debunked over and over and over again. Google Talk didn't kill XMPP. XMPP didn't have a significant user base, Google Talk did, so while Google Talk supported XMPP, other open source XMPP clients got to ride their coattails and interact with a huge community and it felt like XMPP was thriving, when in reality Google Talk was what users cared about, not whether or not it connected to the rest of the minor XMPP networks, so when Google Talk decided to stop using XMPP, their users didn't care or switch and XMPP died. But that's fundamentally not because Google killed it, it's because Google was the only thing keeping it alive. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe [S] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) the internet/web itself is a decentralized model and yet think of how often you see a website that “only works/works best on Google Chrome” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* That's because developers making websites don't want to bother to test their thousands of lines of application code on a bunch of different browsers.... is your argument that Threads will join the fediverse and then people arent going to test whether their 150 characters of text will work with Lemmy before posting and then all us Lemmy user's are going to quit because it's simply too much for Lemmy to render 150 characters of text and maybe an image? permalink fedilink source parent [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* there are very few sites that work on chromium but not on gecko or webkit, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I've ever seen that though. Can I get an example? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rabiddolphin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Gov websites permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] capital@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Which ones? I’m on the VA one and USAjobs quite a lot and have had no issues with Firefox. A link would be helpful. But tbh that’s not a great example. If we’re talking an about orgs like the DoD, they have a horrendous track record. Some of their shit still required IE after it was deprecated. I was in the Air Force and worked as a contractor for years after. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atocci@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I only ever see it on Google's own websites (who woulda guessed) e.g. Google Earth permalink fedilink source parent [–] jherazob@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Try setting up a personal email server in 2024 and tell me afterwards how fun the experience was permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skaxen@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html That's exactly what happens in a decentralized model. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* Stop posting this unless you have an actual argument as to why it's not just FUD. This dumbass blogpost has been debunked over and over and over again. Google Talk didn't kill XMPP. XMPP didn't have a significant user base, Google Talk did, so while Google Talk supported XMPP, other open source XMPP clients got to ride their coattails and interact with a huge community and it felt like XMPP was thriving, when in reality Google Talk was what users cared about, not whether or not it connected to the rest of the minor XMPP networks, so when Google Talk decided to stop using XMPP, their users didn't care or switch and XMPP died. But that's fundamentally not because Google killed it, it's because Google was the only thing keeping it alive. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* Stop posting this unless you have an actual argument as to why it's not just FUD. This dumbass blogpost has been debunked over and over and over again. Google Talk didn't kill XMPP. XMPP didn't have a significant user base, Google Talk did, so while Google Talk supported XMPP, other open source XMPP clients got to ride their coattails and interact with a huge community and it felt like XMPP was thriving, when in reality Google Talk was what users cared about, not whether or not it connected to the rest of the minor XMPP networks, so when Google Talk decided to stop using XMPP, their users didn't care or switch and XMPP died. But that's fundamentally not because Google killed it, it's because Google was the only thing keeping it alive. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe [S] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) the internet/web itself is a decentralized model and yet think of how often you see a website that “only works/works best on Google Chrome” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* That's because developers making websites don't want to bother to test their thousands of lines of application code on a bunch of different browsers.... is your argument that Threads will join the fediverse and then people arent going to test whether their 150 characters of text will work with Lemmy before posting and then all us Lemmy user's are going to quit because it's simply too much for Lemmy to render 150 characters of text and maybe an image? permalink fedilink source parent [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* there are very few sites that work on chromium but not on gecko or webkit, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I've ever seen that though. Can I get an example? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rabiddolphin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Gov websites permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] capital@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Which ones? I’m on the VA one and USAjobs quite a lot and have had no issues with Firefox. A link would be helpful. But tbh that’s not a great example. If we’re talking an about orgs like the DoD, they have a horrendous track record. Some of their shit still required IE after it was deprecated. I was in the Air Force and worked as a contractor for years after. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atocci@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I only ever see it on Google's own websites (who woulda guessed) e.g. Google Earth permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* That's because developers making websites don't want to bother to test their thousands of lines of application code on a bunch of different browsers.... is your argument that Threads will join the fediverse and then people arent going to test whether their 150 characters of text will work with Lemmy before posting and then all us Lemmy user's are going to quit because it's simply too much for Lemmy to render 150 characters of text and maybe an image? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* there are very few sites that work on chromium but not on gecko or webkit, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I've ever seen that though. Can I get an example? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rabiddolphin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Gov websites permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] capital@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Which ones? I’m on the VA one and USAjobs quite a lot and have had no issues with Firefox. A link would be helpful. But tbh that’s not a great example. If we’re talking an about orgs like the DoD, they have a horrendous track record. Some of their shit still required IE after it was deprecated. I was in the Air Force and worked as a contractor for years after. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atocci@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I only ever see it on Google's own websites (who woulda guessed) e.g. Google Earth permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rabiddolphin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Gov websites permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] capital@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Which ones? I’m on the VA one and USAjobs quite a lot and have had no issues with Firefox. A link would be helpful. But tbh that’s not a great example. If we’re talking an about orgs like the DoD, they have a horrendous track record. Some of their shit still required IE after it was deprecated. I was in the Air Force and worked as a contractor for years after. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atocci@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I only ever see it on Google's own websites (who woulda guessed) e.g. Google Earth permalink fedilink source parent
[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Which ones? I’m on the VA one and USAjobs quite a lot and have had no issues with Firefox. A link would be helpful. But tbh that’s not a great example. If we’re talking an about orgs like the DoD, they have a horrendous track record. Some of their shit still required IE after it was deprecated. I was in the Air Force and worked as a contractor for years after. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atocci@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I only ever see it on Google's own websites (who woulda guessed) e.g. Google Earth permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atocci@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I only ever see it on Google's own websites (who woulda guessed) e.g. Google Earth permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Try setting up a personal email server in 2024 and tell me afterwards how fun the experience was permalink fedilink source parent