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[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

It won't work with modern apps in about 3 or 4 years, or even if it does, it'll be so slow, it would practically be unusable.

I have an Asus Zenfone 3 Max from 2016. It has 8 cores @ 900MHz and 3GB of RAM. I only use it for BT auido streaming (play music on a modified audio system from the 90's), that's it. It can play YT videos at Full HD, but searching and screen flipping is so slow, it's practically unusable. Everything is generally slow on it, even browsing. It takes like 10+ seconds to load a more complex page (with media). Sorry, but that's unusable to me.

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[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

It won’t work with modern apps in about 3 or 4 years, or even if it does, it’ll be so slow, it would practically be unusable.

Maybe on Android... my iPhone is 5 years old and works better now (faster, more features, more apps) than it did when it was brand new. It has a 6 core CPU with two of the cores running at 2.65Ghz (the other four cores are 1.8Ghz) - plenty fast enough and fully supported by all the latest software. Really the only thing I'm missing out on is 5G. And wireless charging doesn't have fancy magnets to hold it in place - oh well.

Upgrading to the latest model would give me the same number of CPU cores and about 20% higher clock speed and slightly more RAM - both barely noticeable. I would get a better camera - but I'm OK with this one for a bit longer.

I replaced the battery a few months ago, which was free - under warranty even after five years because Apple's extended warranty can be paid monthly and lasts until you stop paying (and gets cheaper, as your phone ages). The warranty even covers accidental damage (screen repairs, etc).

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[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago*

That iPhone has at least double the CPU power my Zenfone has. Plus more cache, I presume. If I had double the CPU power I currently have on that thing, I would probably still use it.

Upgrading to the latest model would give me the same number of CPU cores and about 20% higher clock speed and slightly more RAM - both barely noticeable. I would get a better camera - but I'm OK with this one for a bit longer.

See, that's the difference (one of them) between bying an iPhone and an Android phone. Android phones are usually a lot more powerful. I currently use a Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro. 8 cores, 2.0GHz per core, 8GB of RAM, 128GB storage, 4 cameras on the back. And all that for 300€. No iPhone has those specs at that price. Sure, support is shorter, but why people throw that kind of money on something like a phone is beyond me. Still, it's everyone's personal choice, and I guess Apple can put in a battery in their devices that will last, oh, 20 years, if they really wanted to, but for most regular Android phones, 10 years is more than enough.

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[–] elshandra@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

If this was an economically scalable proven thing today, phones wouldn't be sold with batteries in 5 years.

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[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

It is doable, but it's not practical. Technology moves so fast nowadays, a 10 year old i7 is easilly surpassed by a modern day i3.

Don't get me wrong, I use old tech all the time, but it's becoming increasingly impractical to do so.

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[–] elshandra@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Yeah so you'll just move your battery from your i17 to your i18.

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[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 2 points 2 years ago*

I was talking about desktop CPUs, but the same principle applies to any sort of SoC or CPU. What is "the best" today is surpassed within a month or two.

This is also why I usually buy second hand computer equpment. There's no point, it's extremely expensive the day it hits the market, and in a year, it's like 1/3 of the price. This is especially true for GPUs.

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[–] Noerttipertti@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Not all phones are smartphones. Theres still plenty of use cases for call/sms only phones.

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[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

And they don't support anything higher than 3G, which will go in history in a few years... and then the only thing you can use them for is a paper weight.

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[–] Noerttipertti@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Bollocks. Nokia 800 tough, 2660 flip, 2720 flip, 225 4g, 6300 4g, 8000 4g - just from one manufacturer, and there's plenty of others.

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[–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works [S] 3 points 2 years ago

They're called burner phones. No real OS on them, no upgrade path, nothing. You wanna make phone calls and send SMS, that's fine, but let's face it, most people nowadays don't use phones just for that.