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[–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Or do majority of people in Palestine actually support HAMAS and the war?

Idk if the majority support Hamas specifically, but most Palestinians support resistance fighters, including Hamas, mostly because peaceful diplomacy with Israel has proven to be impossible.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Imagine 1% of your entire population was destroyed, people keep getting thrown out of homes, critical infrastructure is being destroyed. The world refuses to help and more often than not supports the people doing it to you.

    I'm not there, so I couldn't make an accurate statement. But I'm pretty sure I would be supporting the only people willing to do anything to stop them. The situation is just to dire.

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  • [+] -18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Hamas only exists because peaceful diplomacy with Israel was successful, and leading to a secular Palestinian state and a two state solution.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hamas has no power in the West Bank. Yet Israeli settlers are free to harass Palestinians and force them from their homes without consequence. If you think that’s a successful resolution to the conflict then you’re just willfully ignorant.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Yet Israeli settlers are free to harass Palestinians and force them from their homes without consequence

    That's simply not true

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-08/ty-article/.premium/second-west-bank-settler-suspected-of-attacking-palestinians-to-be-held-without-trial/0000018c-49af-d6bd-a1ad-7bff81930000

    Meanwhile Hamas literally has in their original charter that the reason they exist was to form an Islamic state, resist PA secularism, and fight a two state solution, because their goal was genocide of Israel.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Willful ignorance, as I said.

    For others reading this, UN reports on the issue are easily accessible.

    https://www.unocha.org/publications/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/other-mass-displacement-while-eyes-are-gaza-settlers-advance-west-bank-herders-enhe

    Even Haaretz reports on settler violence.

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-07-01/ty-article/.premium/settler-violence-in-the-west-bank-isnt-an-oversight-its-a-long-standing-policy/00000189-0abc-d572-af9b-0afffdd50000

    You have to go out of your way to ignore the mass amount of evidence that show the Israeli government endorses and supports the forced eviction of Palestinians in the West Bank.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    People break laws all the time. That doesnt mean the gov supports them.

    You may enjoy learning about the actual nuance here

    https://israelpolicyforum.org/west-bank-settlements-explained/

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    You added that last part, you disingenuous tool.

    They are against a two state solution, because it's clear that can never work. The government of Israel has made that abundantly clear. The only real solution is a multiethnic state that is shared by Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

    A religious ethnostate smack dab in the middle of an already existing nation who claims the same holy site that you do. What could possibly go wrong?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Hamas only exists because peaceful diplomacy with Israel was successful,

    What peaceful diplomacy that lead to what results? The Oslo peace process (which Netanyahu stopped, by the way) only came after the first intifada and that shit was not peaceful.

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