▲ 990 ▼ China’s Youth Are Quitting the Rat Race to ‘Let It Rot’ (www.wsj.com) submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 233 comments fedilink hide all child comments Young people in China are becoming more rebellious, questioning their nation’s traditional expectations of career and family
[–] yetiftw@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) did you miss what happened to twitter? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -17 points 2 years ago (2 children) No. I don't see how it was "dismantled." Can you explain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Rate limiting and heavily pushed “premium” options have made Twitter near useless for large scale organizing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) 600 posts a day makes it nearly useless for organizing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you attempted to use the platform since the rate limiting? It’s approximately 2-3 searches before you’re rate limited out of the app for 24+ hours. You’re also unable to view comments unless you’re logged in, so you’re required to give them semi-accurate information for an account too. It’s literally useless for organizing unless you pay for it, which defeats the entire purpose of wide spread reach like it used to have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Okay so twitter is useless. What about all of the other social media sites out there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) None ever had the organizational reach Twitter did. FB/Instagram require more personal data and are much worse for discoverability. Mastodon and BlueSky have the issue of nobody using them (in the grand scheme of things). Lemmy and Reddit don’t work well because of reach and censorship respectively. There still isn’t something out there that replaces the use cases of Twitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're kind of defeating the point here by talking about all of these other social media sites that are available, none of which you claim has been dismantled. . .and even rejecting some of them as not being good only because enough people aren't using them. This is not a dismantling of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Twitter is literally being dismantled. It’s a shell of what it previously was, and does not work for organizing protests and other counter-culture due to the billionaires buying and taking it apart piece by piece. The whole point of Twitter was reach. None of the other platforms have the same reach. Also the other platforms are doing their best to follow twitters lead. So yes, it’s being dismantled. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its capitalist owners rendered it useless for political organization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is just repeating the claim. Can you explain how so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It is wasteful by way of being botted up to the point of inefficiency for individual political communication and its owners are happy to take payments from abusive operators responsible for the bots, if not doing the botting themselves. That's just Twitter. Other platforms experience similar crapitalist growing pains albeit not all exactly in the same way. For profit motivated entities, there's always a diminishing ROI on politically actionable systems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago It is wasteful by way of being botted up to the point of inefficiency Twitter was a bot fest long before Musk took it over. And that isn't a problem with billionaires, but an inherent problem with system itself that can be, and is, exploited by plenty of people. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -17 points 2 years ago (2 children) No. I don't see how it was "dismantled." Can you explain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Rate limiting and heavily pushed “premium” options have made Twitter near useless for large scale organizing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) 600 posts a day makes it nearly useless for organizing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you attempted to use the platform since the rate limiting? It’s approximately 2-3 searches before you’re rate limited out of the app for 24+ hours. You’re also unable to view comments unless you’re logged in, so you’re required to give them semi-accurate information for an account too. It’s literally useless for organizing unless you pay for it, which defeats the entire purpose of wide spread reach like it used to have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Okay so twitter is useless. What about all of the other social media sites out there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) None ever had the organizational reach Twitter did. FB/Instagram require more personal data and are much worse for discoverability. Mastodon and BlueSky have the issue of nobody using them (in the grand scheme of things). Lemmy and Reddit don’t work well because of reach and censorship respectively. There still isn’t something out there that replaces the use cases of Twitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're kind of defeating the point here by talking about all of these other social media sites that are available, none of which you claim has been dismantled. . .and even rejecting some of them as not being good only because enough people aren't using them. This is not a dismantling of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Twitter is literally being dismantled. It’s a shell of what it previously was, and does not work for organizing protests and other counter-culture due to the billionaires buying and taking it apart piece by piece. The whole point of Twitter was reach. None of the other platforms have the same reach. Also the other platforms are doing their best to follow twitters lead. So yes, it’s being dismantled. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its capitalist owners rendered it useless for political organization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is just repeating the claim. Can you explain how so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It is wasteful by way of being botted up to the point of inefficiency for individual political communication and its owners are happy to take payments from abusive operators responsible for the bots, if not doing the botting themselves. That's just Twitter. Other platforms experience similar crapitalist growing pains albeit not all exactly in the same way. For profit motivated entities, there's always a diminishing ROI on politically actionable systems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago It is wasteful by way of being botted up to the point of inefficiency Twitter was a bot fest long before Musk took it over. And that isn't a problem with billionaires, but an inherent problem with system itself that can be, and is, exploited by plenty of people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BURN@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Rate limiting and heavily pushed “premium” options have made Twitter near useless for large scale organizing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) 600 posts a day makes it nearly useless for organizing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you attempted to use the platform since the rate limiting? It’s approximately 2-3 searches before you’re rate limited out of the app for 24+ hours. You’re also unable to view comments unless you’re logged in, so you’re required to give them semi-accurate information for an account too. It’s literally useless for organizing unless you pay for it, which defeats the entire purpose of wide spread reach like it used to have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Okay so twitter is useless. What about all of the other social media sites out there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) None ever had the organizational reach Twitter did. FB/Instagram require more personal data and are much worse for discoverability. Mastodon and BlueSky have the issue of nobody using them (in the grand scheme of things). Lemmy and Reddit don’t work well because of reach and censorship respectively. There still isn’t something out there that replaces the use cases of Twitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're kind of defeating the point here by talking about all of these other social media sites that are available, none of which you claim has been dismantled. . .and even rejecting some of them as not being good only because enough people aren't using them. This is not a dismantling of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Twitter is literally being dismantled. It’s a shell of what it previously was, and does not work for organizing protests and other counter-culture due to the billionaires buying and taking it apart piece by piece. The whole point of Twitter was reach. None of the other platforms have the same reach. Also the other platforms are doing their best to follow twitters lead. So yes, it’s being dismantled. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -17 points 2 years ago (1 child) 600 posts a day makes it nearly useless for organizing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you attempted to use the platform since the rate limiting? It’s approximately 2-3 searches before you’re rate limited out of the app for 24+ hours. You’re also unable to view comments unless you’re logged in, so you’re required to give them semi-accurate information for an account too. It’s literally useless for organizing unless you pay for it, which defeats the entire purpose of wide spread reach like it used to have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Okay so twitter is useless. What about all of the other social media sites out there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) None ever had the organizational reach Twitter did. FB/Instagram require more personal data and are much worse for discoverability. Mastodon and BlueSky have the issue of nobody using them (in the grand scheme of things). Lemmy and Reddit don’t work well because of reach and censorship respectively. There still isn’t something out there that replaces the use cases of Twitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're kind of defeating the point here by talking about all of these other social media sites that are available, none of which you claim has been dismantled. . .and even rejecting some of them as not being good only because enough people aren't using them. This is not a dismantling of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Twitter is literally being dismantled. It’s a shell of what it previously was, and does not work for organizing protests and other counter-culture due to the billionaires buying and taking it apart piece by piece. The whole point of Twitter was reach. None of the other platforms have the same reach. Also the other platforms are doing their best to follow twitters lead. So yes, it’s being dismantled. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BURN@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you attempted to use the platform since the rate limiting? It’s approximately 2-3 searches before you’re rate limited out of the app for 24+ hours. You’re also unable to view comments unless you’re logged in, so you’re required to give them semi-accurate information for an account too. It’s literally useless for organizing unless you pay for it, which defeats the entire purpose of wide spread reach like it used to have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Okay so twitter is useless. What about all of the other social media sites out there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) None ever had the organizational reach Twitter did. FB/Instagram require more personal data and are much worse for discoverability. Mastodon and BlueSky have the issue of nobody using them (in the grand scheme of things). Lemmy and Reddit don’t work well because of reach and censorship respectively. There still isn’t something out there that replaces the use cases of Twitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're kind of defeating the point here by talking about all of these other social media sites that are available, none of which you claim has been dismantled. . .and even rejecting some of them as not being good only because enough people aren't using them. This is not a dismantling of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Twitter is literally being dismantled. It’s a shell of what it previously was, and does not work for organizing protests and other counter-culture due to the billionaires buying and taking it apart piece by piece. The whole point of Twitter was reach. None of the other platforms have the same reach. Also the other platforms are doing their best to follow twitters lead. So yes, it’s being dismantled. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Okay so twitter is useless. What about all of the other social media sites out there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) None ever had the organizational reach Twitter did. FB/Instagram require more personal data and are much worse for discoverability. Mastodon and BlueSky have the issue of nobody using them (in the grand scheme of things). Lemmy and Reddit don’t work well because of reach and censorship respectively. There still isn’t something out there that replaces the use cases of Twitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're kind of defeating the point here by talking about all of these other social media sites that are available, none of which you claim has been dismantled. . .and even rejecting some of them as not being good only because enough people aren't using them. This is not a dismantling of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Twitter is literally being dismantled. It’s a shell of what it previously was, and does not work for organizing protests and other counter-culture due to the billionaires buying and taking it apart piece by piece. The whole point of Twitter was reach. None of the other platforms have the same reach. Also the other platforms are doing their best to follow twitters lead. So yes, it’s being dismantled. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BURN@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) None ever had the organizational reach Twitter did. FB/Instagram require more personal data and are much worse for discoverability. Mastodon and BlueSky have the issue of nobody using them (in the grand scheme of things). Lemmy and Reddit don’t work well because of reach and censorship respectively. There still isn’t something out there that replaces the use cases of Twitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're kind of defeating the point here by talking about all of these other social media sites that are available, none of which you claim has been dismantled. . .and even rejecting some of them as not being good only because enough people aren't using them. This is not a dismantling of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Twitter is literally being dismantled. It’s a shell of what it previously was, and does not work for organizing protests and other counter-culture due to the billionaires buying and taking it apart piece by piece. The whole point of Twitter was reach. None of the other platforms have the same reach. Also the other platforms are doing their best to follow twitters lead. So yes, it’s being dismantled. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're kind of defeating the point here by talking about all of these other social media sites that are available, none of which you claim has been dismantled. . .and even rejecting some of them as not being good only because enough people aren't using them. This is not a dismantling of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BURN@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Twitter is literally being dismantled. It’s a shell of what it previously was, and does not work for organizing protests and other counter-culture due to the billionaires buying and taking it apart piece by piece. The whole point of Twitter was reach. None of the other platforms have the same reach. Also the other platforms are doing their best to follow twitters lead. So yes, it’s being dismantled. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BURN@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Twitter is literally being dismantled. It’s a shell of what it previously was, and does not work for organizing protests and other counter-culture due to the billionaires buying and taking it apart piece by piece. The whole point of Twitter was reach. None of the other platforms have the same reach. Also the other platforms are doing their best to follow twitters lead. So yes, it’s being dismantled. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its capitalist owners rendered it useless for political organization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is just repeating the claim. Can you explain how so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It is wasteful by way of being botted up to the point of inefficiency for individual political communication and its owners are happy to take payments from abusive operators responsible for the bots, if not doing the botting themselves. That's just Twitter. Other platforms experience similar crapitalist growing pains albeit not all exactly in the same way. For profit motivated entities, there's always a diminishing ROI on politically actionable systems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago It is wasteful by way of being botted up to the point of inefficiency Twitter was a bot fest long before Musk took it over. And that isn't a problem with billionaires, but an inherent problem with system itself that can be, and is, exploited by plenty of people. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EatATaco@lemm.ee -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is just repeating the claim. Can you explain how so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It is wasteful by way of being botted up to the point of inefficiency for individual political communication and its owners are happy to take payments from abusive operators responsible for the bots, if not doing the botting themselves. That's just Twitter. Other platforms experience similar crapitalist growing pains albeit not all exactly in the same way. For profit motivated entities, there's always a diminishing ROI on politically actionable systems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago It is wasteful by way of being botted up to the point of inefficiency Twitter was a bot fest long before Musk took it over. And that isn't a problem with billionaires, but an inherent problem with system itself that can be, and is, exploited by plenty of people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It is wasteful by way of being botted up to the point of inefficiency for individual political communication and its owners are happy to take payments from abusive operators responsible for the bots, if not doing the botting themselves. That's just Twitter. Other platforms experience similar crapitalist growing pains albeit not all exactly in the same way. For profit motivated entities, there's always a diminishing ROI on politically actionable systems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago It is wasteful by way of being botted up to the point of inefficiency Twitter was a bot fest long before Musk took it over. And that isn't a problem with billionaires, but an inherent problem with system itself that can be, and is, exploited by plenty of people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago It is wasteful by way of being botted up to the point of inefficiency Twitter was a bot fest long before Musk took it over. And that isn't a problem with billionaires, but an inherent problem with system itself that can be, and is, exploited by plenty of people. permalink fedilink source parent