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More things like Star Trek? (lemmy.world)
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Over the last few years my family and I have binged all of Star Trek, then moved on to Star Trek adjacent shows like The Orville and Stargate. At the moment we're not really watching anything sci-fi. I was wondering if anyone had recommendations for similar shows (or maybe some books) that fill the void left by Star Trek. In particular I really like the episodes that deal with interacting with other civilizations, diplomacy, and exploration more-so than say, an anomaly episode.

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[–] 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Babylon 5 and Farscape are great.

Babylon 5 is more like Trek with diplomacy and semi-realisitic plots, while Farscape leans a bit more toward Star Wars; fun, campy, weird at times but well-written.

You may also like Red Dwarf which is like the IT crowd, but in space.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    This comment includes all the shows I would also recommend.

    Babylon 5 came out about the same time as Star Trek DS9. The first season is sometimes hard to get through, but well worth it. The character development and storylines are mostly excellent as they grow and intersect throughout the show. Season 5 can take or leave.

    Farscape is another one where some people are turned off by the Jim Henson puppetesque characters. Another older show but has some great storylines and character development.

    Red Dwarf, older British Humor, silly.

    Highly recommend giving Farscape and Bab5 a try.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I found Farscape impossible to watch because of the main character. The show suffers because of the classic misogynistic writing where all the female characters are tripping over themselves to get noticed by the bland, aggressive, stupid, and overly cocky "average Joe" that was thrust into an unusual situation. It's extremely dated writing and as a woman, it really irritates me.

    The rest of the show is great! But the main character just ruins it for me completely. Unfortunately that kind of writing is everywhere in older sci-fi. I started and gave up on Stargate: Atlantis for the same reason. I wish someone would release an edit with the more obnoxious parts removed because I can tell that I'm missing out on some great sci-fi but it's just unwatchable to me.

    On the other hand you've got shows like ST:TNG, ST:DS9, Battlestar Galactica, even Lexx, where either women are treated with respect and not overly sexualized, or if they are sexualized then so are the men, and the men are kind, intelligent, and curteous, or if they're not then they're probably a villain.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Mmm, I know exactly what you mean. I'm tired of limp lead characters who just tick the boxes of a target demographic to self-insert into.

    The Expanse suffered a bit from that (the main guy had all the magnetism of limp celery) but was saved because every single other character was genuinely interesting. Farscape had a much smaller cast, so there was no escape!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I always thought Farscape could be amazing if they rewrote it and got some good actors. The plot of good and the character development could be magnificent. It is such a great concept.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    That could be said of a lot of things ... a great concept let down by lazy writing and poor casting. Yet these things get money thrown at them - great effects, lighting, locations, makeup, etc etc

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Your last line has sold me on red dwarf 😂

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Its very old, be prepared for some content that is not appropriate today.

    Also if you do watch it. Kryten's way of speaking is based on Robert Llewewllyns visit to vancouver canada and how he felt people in vancouver spoke, or at least thats the story i remember. Doesnt really factor into the show, i just thought it was an interesting choice given the distinct way Kryten speaks

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Start with series 3, that's where it was up to speed and you don't miss much

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    You do miss out on how the show got better over time. It's painful but its worth it for the overall enjoyment of the show.

    Not trying to convince you though, just expressing a counter perspective for otthers on why it might be worth not skipping

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