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We need to have a serious talk about this instance being federated with Lemmygrad, Hexbear, and tankies in general (lemm.ee)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/meta@lemm.ee
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TO THE ADMINS: Read this thread and give me one good reason why federating with toxic, propaganda spreading tankie loons is a good idea.

No one wants those fucks, or the alt right dipshits for that matter, around, and they're spreading blatant lies, yet I see they are here. Does lemm.ee only care about boosting its numbers and is willing to sink to new lows to do it, I wonder? πŸ€”

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[–] 8 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Please don't defederate because others have different views. There's an ocean of difference between right wing fascists advocating for the elimination, enslavement, or oppression of innocent peoples and "tankies" who ultimately want to help people even if they have a different path to get there and some can be dicks about it.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Modern day tankies are indistinguishable from fascists since they shill for fascist shitholes like Russia and China. I don't care about intent, everyone can lie about it. You can't lie about outcomes.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    This is my problem. I support communist and socialist eonomic ideals and reforms, all these tankies claiming China or worse Russia are somehow actually communist hurts the cause. They're basically fascist nationalists claiming to be communist. It's infuriating...

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  • [+] -11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    No communist thinks modern day Russia is communist. Your being disingenuous and I bet you would rather allow liberal fascism on her than socialist views you disagree with. Typical liberal censoring communism because it challenges uour brainwashed reality.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago*

    Yup, totally. No way there's literally pro Russia articles regularly posted in the communist communities. I just imagined that. I agree no real communist is pro Russia. That's why I have a fucking problem with it.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    I don't have an issue with people having different views, but I had to block a ton of that shit due to the blatant propaganda. I have to think it's filled with Chinese bots at this point. Saying the Tianamen square massacre didn't happen is akin to Holocaust denial. It's insane blatant shilling.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago

    Saying the Tianamen square massacre didn’t happen is akin to Holocaust denial. It’s insane blatant shilling.

    To me, these are not equivalent. Things are bad because they harm or promote harm to innocent people. A person not believing a particular, and controversial historical event, on it's own, does not make a person bad, insane, or mean they're shilling.

    Holocaust deniers are typically bad people because denial of that event is part of their larger anti-semitism. It's an aspect of their hatred of innocent people. It is acceptance of genocide.

    Denying that the events of Tiananmen Square in 1989 were a massacre is not a part of hating innocent people. It's instead based on not trusting the U.S. government, an organzation with an incredible history of lying, gaslighting, and media manipulation. Unfortunately, they seem to instead trust a different government with a similarly incredibly bad history.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Your argument makes absolutely no sense. "Don't defederate because you disagree with their views" when it comes to left-wing/communist extremists, yet you turn around and complain about places with right-wing/fascist extremist places existing. As others have said, doesn't matter what "side" they're on, violent extremists are cut from the same cloth in that way. Personally, I'm with the admins here, in that I don't mind being federated with either of them so long as they play by the rules here. But then again, I tend to stick to my own interests and set my default view to Subscribed, and don't venture into the All feed much. Even then, I haven't really noticed what people are complaining about very much. If people here are smart enough to know real misinformation when they see it, they can just scroll on and ignore it.

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