▲ 308 ▼ Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 support will end tomorrow (January 1st 2024) (help.steampowered.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by testeronious@lemmy.world to c/steam@lemmy.ml 80 comments fedilink hide all child comments This affects roughly 0.91% of the users according to the latest hardware survey (november 2023) https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) It doesn't need new features and I'm pretty sure any bugs, vulnerabilities will still get ironed out. We both know Wayland will kill x11. The point is, considering we are both using x11, why should a new person from Windows need it now? In a few years, my position would be different, but for now, mileage varies and many face use cases it doesn't yet cover. X11 is mature and mostly just works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* The point is, considering we are both using x11, why should a new person from Windows need it now? Depends on their hardware. I use 4 monitors at: 1440p 165hz (FreeSync) 1440p 75hz 1440p 75hz 4k 60hz It works better on Wayland. Other users could be in a similar situation. iirc, you can't use FreeSync with multi monitors on Xorg as well permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is going all in, and once distros retire it, it's dead. Jumping before distros because you have a rush of blood to the head isn't particularly helpful. My hardware has no Nvidia, but getting screen recording on Wayland was a royal pain in the backside. Functionally, x11 just works better for me right now. When they iron this stuff out and make it effortless, great, but until then, the software still needs maturing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) They don't need to think about display servers. Just update and it will resolve itself. You're overcomplicating things and scaring people away from Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have evidence it is unmaintained? Last commit years ago? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) It doesn't need new features and I'm pretty sure any bugs, vulnerabilities will still get ironed out. We both know Wayland will kill x11. The point is, considering we are both using x11, why should a new person from Windows need it now? In a few years, my position would be different, but for now, mileage varies and many face use cases it doesn't yet cover. X11 is mature and mostly just works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* The point is, considering we are both using x11, why should a new person from Windows need it now? Depends on their hardware. I use 4 monitors at: 1440p 165hz (FreeSync) 1440p 75hz 1440p 75hz 4k 60hz It works better on Wayland. Other users could be in a similar situation. iirc, you can't use FreeSync with multi monitors on Xorg as well permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is going all in, and once distros retire it, it's dead. Jumping before distros because you have a rush of blood to the head isn't particularly helpful. My hardware has no Nvidia, but getting screen recording on Wayland was a royal pain in the backside. Functionally, x11 just works better for me right now. When they iron this stuff out and make it effortless, great, but until then, the software still needs maturing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) They don't need to think about display servers. Just update and it will resolve itself. You're overcomplicating things and scaring people away from Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have evidence it is unmaintained? Last commit years ago? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* The point is, considering we are both using x11, why should a new person from Windows need it now? Depends on their hardware. I use 4 monitors at: 1440p 165hz (FreeSync) 1440p 75hz 1440p 75hz 4k 60hz It works better on Wayland. Other users could be in a similar situation. iirc, you can't use FreeSync with multi monitors on Xorg as well permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is going all in, and once distros retire it, it's dead. Jumping before distros because you have a rush of blood to the head isn't particularly helpful. My hardware has no Nvidia, but getting screen recording on Wayland was a royal pain in the backside. Functionally, x11 just works better for me right now. When they iron this stuff out and make it effortless, great, but until then, the software still needs maturing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) They don't need to think about display servers. Just update and it will resolve itself. You're overcomplicating things and scaring people away from Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have evidence it is unmaintained? Last commit years ago? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No one is going all in, and once distros retire it, it's dead. Jumping before distros because you have a rush of blood to the head isn't particularly helpful. My hardware has no Nvidia, but getting screen recording on Wayland was a royal pain in the backside. Functionally, x11 just works better for me right now. When they iron this stuff out and make it effortless, great, but until then, the software still needs maturing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) They don't need to think about display servers. Just update and it will resolve itself. You're overcomplicating things and scaring people away from Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have evidence it is unmaintained? Last commit years ago? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) They don't need to think about display servers. Just update and it will resolve itself. You're overcomplicating things and scaring people away from Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have evidence it is unmaintained? Last commit years ago? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) They don't need to think about display servers. Just update and it will resolve itself. You're overcomplicating things and scaring people away from Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have evidence it is unmaintained? Last commit years ago? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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