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[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 118 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children) Celsius is the superior scale: 100° is the perfect temperature inside the Sauna. 0° is the perfect water temperature for a bath after the Sauna. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] YoorWeb@lemmy.world 92 points 2 years ago (3 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 49 points 2 years ago (8 children) I work with Americans and this hits home hard. It's especially infuriating when they format their dates. "I had a meeting with so-and-so on 4/5" and nobody has any fucking clue what they mean. The worst part is how hopelessly oblivious they are about it. It's not even like they don't care that nobody does things their stupid way - it's the fact that they're so insulated that they can't even fathom that nobody does things the same way they do. It just goes to show how clueless they are about the rest of the world and how little they get out of their neighborhoods. It drives me mad. At this point, it's just offensive how ignorant they can be sometimes. If you have to work with other people, you should at least make an effort to be aware of the fact that others do things a different way and try to avoid situations like this, but they just refuse to do so. Apologies... /rant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] tamiya_tt02@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm American and always use 30 Dec 2023 as my date scheme. It makes much more sense. I also work in a multicultural laboratory, so there should be no question as to what date it is, but some of my colleagues still use mm-dd-yy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) some of my colleagues still use mm-dd-yy. That makes it even worse. When the date uses slashes I expect it to be American, but with dashes anything other than yyyy-mm-dd doesn't even read as a date to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago Thanks, I appreciate it! I also try to use the name of the month instead of the number as frequently as possible. To be honest, it's not really the order of the fields that matters - format it whichever way makes you happy! Just make sure it's not ambiguous so other people can tell what you mean. And be aware that not everyone interprets things the same way you do permalink fedilink source parent [–] RBWells@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (5 children) Like the American below, I generally use 30-December 2023 partly because I work with an international company but mostly because after the century rolled over and we had years that looked like months I got confused. Had a boss that formatted all dates as YYYY-MM-DD because that makes them sort correctly in lists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Had a boss that formatted all dates as YYYY-MM-DD because that makes them sort correctly in lists. That's how you know it's the correct date format permalink fedilink source parent [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago I work in an international company too! And yet, this confusion persists :-/ I also format everything YYYY-MM-DD for my personal use too. When writing prose, usually some other format is just fine, but I really would love if everyone did year-month-day permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies) [–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago Everyone should be using ISO8601 anyway. yyyy-mm-dd is superior to both and leaves 0 ambiguity to the reader no matter where they're from. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PM_ME_WRISTS_GIRL@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 years ago (11 children) Besides the dates, I also still don't know if 12am is noon or midnight. Do Americans know? Is there a problem with simply counting to 24? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (4 children) 12:00AM is midnight because AM is morning, and it's the beginning of the morning. Using 12-hour time is just a historical artifact from all our analog clocks having 12 hours on their face and not wanting to have to add 12 to the number on the clock for half the day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] nao@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago 12:00AM is midnight because AM is morning, and it's the beginning of the morning. That doesn’t make it less confusing, it’s the beginnng of the morning but uses the highest available number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Akareth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where I'm from, 12:00 a.m. (00:00) is the middle of the night (we call it midnight here), and morning begins when the sun rises (and we say "good morning" during our mornings). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Put more specifically, A.M. and P.M. are abbreviations for "ante meridiem" and "post meridiem", which are Latin for "before mid-day" and "after mid-day" respectively. Since a new day begins at midnight, it follows that midnight is 12:00 A.M. since it's the 12 o'clock that is before mid-day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] misophist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yes, it makes perfect sense to count our hours as such: 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 /s permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) 12AM is midnight. As for the other part I have this mind blowing concept for you, our culture is not the same as yours. We have our own ways of doing things, just like you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments load more comments (5 replies) [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (5 children) PM is evening, AM is morning. I prefer 24hr time but 12hr is not confusing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Exactly and it's such a minor thing to bitch about, I understand the date system frustration but over using AM/PM vs 24? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The notations can be confusing, especially around noon and midnight. Is midnight am or pm when it's equally distant to both the previous and the next noon? Why does 12am not follow 11am??? Where I live we use 12hr time in casual spoken language but pretty much always specify the time of day as well, like eight in the evening or twelve at midnight. But for anything written or even remotely formal, 24h time is used for obvious reasons. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (8 replies) [–] mmagod@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago heck even inside these borders.. the concept of timezones blows their minds at work lol.. them: "yeah let's set a meeting at 9am!" me: eastern? pacific? central? help me... heeeelllp meee permalink fedilink source parent [–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, we'll have the meeting on 3/2/2023 And I'm like.... FUCK. I'll have to ask again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hate when software is hard coded either those stupid fucking dates. I generally uninstall permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankton@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Oh god or when you can choose between 4/5/23 or 5/4/23 and your like.... '_' permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago (5 children) Isn't basing a temperature scale on the freezing and boiling points of water a bit arbitrary in and of itself? The reason they are arbitrary numbers in Fahrenheit is because they weren't considerations when the scale was made. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Deme@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Water is everywhere. Cooking, weather, etc. You are also water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (4 children) Except that water boils at different temperatures when exposed to different amounts of pressure. So this works pretty universally on earth.... Near the ground/ocean level (plus or minus a few hundred meters). Once you get outside of that specific condition the numbers move. So yes, fairly arbitrary. Let's all switch to Kelvin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago The nice thing about celcius and kelvin is that they're the same scale, but celcius is just shifted 273.15 units. And it's more intuitive for humans to work with smaller numbers with bigger relative differences. But yes, kelvin would be a lot better to work with, especially considering stuff like doubling temperature (doubling energy) would actually work correctly in kelvin. But if there's one thing that makes a lot of sense to base temperature enough for human use, I would indeed say it's water, because all life uses water, we are completely surrounded by it, and it's super important to nearly everything we do too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deme@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Sure, but the vast majority of people live in low lying areas and even then it doesn't shift that drastically. You need to climb a mountain to see the difference when it comes to applications of daily life. Although now that I think about it. The same criticism applies to pretty much every definition of temperature that is based on the behaviour of matter. This also applies to Kelvin. Temperature is a property of matter and every type of matter behaves differently. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] BluesF@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is, but if you look at how Farenheit was conceived it's absurdly nonsensical. 0°F is the freezing temperature or some mixture of chemicals, and 90°F is a guess at human body temperature lmao. And the freezing/boiling points of water are arbitrary except in that they are used to actually define both scales. They provide easily measurable standards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] force@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children) Well TECHNICALLY it's not based on the state change of water. It's based on the formula C = K - 273.15 where K = 1.380649×10^−23 / (6.62607015×10^−34)(9192631770) * h * Δν[Cs] / k where k is the Boltzmann constant (1.380649×10^−23 J * K^-1), h is the Planck constant, and Δν[Cs] is the hyperfine transition frequency of Caesium So even MORE abstract and unrelatable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments load more comments (6 replies) load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] droog_the_droog@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (1 child) Found the Finn, everyone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago Perkele! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Resol@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (6 children) I've never been to a sauna before, but are you guys okay with boiling yourselves and then immediately freezing yourselves? Doesn't that seem very painful? Are you guys used to being Wim Hof all the time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Deme@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The thing to remember is that air is a great insulator. Air at 100°C isn't nearly as bad as say water or metal at the same temperature against the skin. In fact, the air that comes in contact with the comparatively cold human skin will cool down rapidly, forming a layer of cooler air around you and lessening the sensation of heat further. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) SCIENCE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) 100°C is a quite hot one. It could hurt your nose and ears a bit, especially if they having a steaming session. The cold water (normally ~10°C) does not hurt at all. The first minute your brain is not able to differentiate the temperature at all. After that it gets quite quickly into: ohh I should leave! Btw: you should try sauna at some point. Especially with the steaming it's amazing. There are also milder ones with ~80°C, I would recommend at the start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deme@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago 100°C is nice. And what's a steaming session? Throwing water onto the rocks for steam every now and then is just standard operating procedure. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] DrMango@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes. It's wonderful. It feels great physically and mentally. Wim Hoff is a bit crazy tho tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Wim Hof, the guy who shredded his intestines by giving himself an enema from a public water fountain while waiting to meet his estranged son? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies) [–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Found the Scandinavian permalink fedilink source parent [–] Asudox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I object. Kelvin is the superior one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hmm, I sure love adding 273.15 to literally every single temperature I encounter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Wogi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Oh sure, so what are you, a Newton scale guy? "What is it outside? 6? Lovely. High of 12? Fuck that noise I'm staying inside at a nice comfortable 5." permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 4 points 2 years ago I've never heard Celsius be explained more perfect than this. Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YoorWeb@lemmy.world 92 points 2 years ago (3 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 49 points 2 years ago (8 children) I work with Americans and this hits home hard. It's especially infuriating when they format their dates. "I had a meeting with so-and-so on 4/5" and nobody has any fucking clue what they mean. The worst part is how hopelessly oblivious they are about it. It's not even like they don't care that nobody does things their stupid way - it's the fact that they're so insulated that they can't even fathom that nobody does things the same way they do. It just goes to show how clueless they are about the rest of the world and how little they get out of their neighborhoods. It drives me mad. At this point, it's just offensive how ignorant they can be sometimes. If you have to work with other people, you should at least make an effort to be aware of the fact that others do things a different way and try to avoid situations like this, but they just refuse to do so. Apologies... /rant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] tamiya_tt02@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm American and always use 30 Dec 2023 as my date scheme. It makes much more sense. I also work in a multicultural laboratory, so there should be no question as to what date it is, but some of my colleagues still use mm-dd-yy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) some of my colleagues still use mm-dd-yy. That makes it even worse. When the date uses slashes I expect it to be American, but with dashes anything other than yyyy-mm-dd doesn't even read as a date to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago Thanks, I appreciate it! I also try to use the name of the month instead of the number as frequently as possible. To be honest, it's not really the order of the fields that matters - format it whichever way makes you happy! Just make sure it's not ambiguous so other people can tell what you mean. And be aware that not everyone interprets things the same way you do permalink fedilink source parent [–] RBWells@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (5 children) Like the American below, I generally use 30-December 2023 partly because I work with an international company but mostly because after the century rolled over and we had years that looked like months I got confused. Had a boss that formatted all dates as YYYY-MM-DD because that makes them sort correctly in lists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Had a boss that formatted all dates as YYYY-MM-DD because that makes them sort correctly in lists. That's how you know it's the correct date format permalink fedilink source parent [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago I work in an international company too! And yet, this confusion persists :-/ I also format everything YYYY-MM-DD for my personal use too. When writing prose, usually some other format is just fine, but I really would love if everyone did year-month-day permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies) [–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago Everyone should be using ISO8601 anyway. yyyy-mm-dd is superior to both and leaves 0 ambiguity to the reader no matter where they're from. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PM_ME_WRISTS_GIRL@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 years ago (11 children) Besides the dates, I also still don't know if 12am is noon or midnight. Do Americans know? Is there a problem with simply counting to 24? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (4 children) 12:00AM is midnight because AM is morning, and it's the beginning of the morning. Using 12-hour time is just a historical artifact from all our analog clocks having 12 hours on their face and not wanting to have to add 12 to the number on the clock for half the day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] nao@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago 12:00AM is midnight because AM is morning, and it's the beginning of the morning. That doesn’t make it less confusing, it’s the beginnng of the morning but uses the highest available number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Akareth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where I'm from, 12:00 a.m. (00:00) is the middle of the night (we call it midnight here), and morning begins when the sun rises (and we say "good morning" during our mornings). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Put more specifically, A.M. and P.M. are abbreviations for "ante meridiem" and "post meridiem", which are Latin for "before mid-day" and "after mid-day" respectively. Since a new day begins at midnight, it follows that midnight is 12:00 A.M. since it's the 12 o'clock that is before mid-day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] misophist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yes, it makes perfect sense to count our hours as such: 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 /s permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) 12AM is midnight. As for the other part I have this mind blowing concept for you, our culture is not the same as yours. We have our own ways of doing things, just like you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments load more comments (5 replies) [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (5 children) PM is evening, AM is morning. I prefer 24hr time but 12hr is not confusing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Exactly and it's such a minor thing to bitch about, I understand the date system frustration but over using AM/PM vs 24? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The notations can be confusing, especially around noon and midnight. Is midnight am or pm when it's equally distant to both the previous and the next noon? Why does 12am not follow 11am??? Where I live we use 12hr time in casual spoken language but pretty much always specify the time of day as well, like eight in the evening or twelve at midnight. But for anything written or even remotely formal, 24h time is used for obvious reasons. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (8 replies) [–] mmagod@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago heck even inside these borders.. the concept of timezones blows their minds at work lol.. them: "yeah let's set a meeting at 9am!" me: eastern? pacific? central? help me... heeeelllp meee permalink fedilink source parent [–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, we'll have the meeting on 3/2/2023 And I'm like.... FUCK. I'll have to ask again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hate when software is hard coded either those stupid fucking dates. I generally uninstall permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankton@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Oh god or when you can choose between 4/5/23 or 5/4/23 and your like.... '_' permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago (5 children) Isn't basing a temperature scale on the freezing and boiling points of water a bit arbitrary in and of itself? The reason they are arbitrary numbers in Fahrenheit is because they weren't considerations when the scale was made. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Deme@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Water is everywhere. Cooking, weather, etc. You are also water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (4 children) Except that water boils at different temperatures when exposed to different amounts of pressure. So this works pretty universally on earth.... Near the ground/ocean level (plus or minus a few hundred meters). Once you get outside of that specific condition the numbers move. So yes, fairly arbitrary. Let's all switch to Kelvin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago The nice thing about celcius and kelvin is that they're the same scale, but celcius is just shifted 273.15 units. And it's more intuitive for humans to work with smaller numbers with bigger relative differences. But yes, kelvin would be a lot better to work with, especially considering stuff like doubling temperature (doubling energy) would actually work correctly in kelvin. But if there's one thing that makes a lot of sense to base temperature enough for human use, I would indeed say it's water, because all life uses water, we are completely surrounded by it, and it's super important to nearly everything we do too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deme@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Sure, but the vast majority of people live in low lying areas and even then it doesn't shift that drastically. You need to climb a mountain to see the difference when it comes to applications of daily life. Although now that I think about it. The same criticism applies to pretty much every definition of temperature that is based on the behaviour of matter. This also applies to Kelvin. Temperature is a property of matter and every type of matter behaves differently. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] BluesF@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is, but if you look at how Farenheit was conceived it's absurdly nonsensical. 0°F is the freezing temperature or some mixture of chemicals, and 90°F is a guess at human body temperature lmao. And the freezing/boiling points of water are arbitrary except in that they are used to actually define both scales. They provide easily measurable standards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] force@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children) Well TECHNICALLY it's not based on the state change of water. It's based on the formula C = K - 273.15 where K = 1.380649×10^−23 / (6.62607015×10^−34)(9192631770) * h * Δν[Cs] / k where k is the Boltzmann constant (1.380649×10^−23 J * K^-1), h is the Planck constant, and Δν[Cs] is the hyperfine transition frequency of Caesium So even MORE abstract and unrelatable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments load more comments (6 replies) load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 49 points 2 years ago (8 children) I work with Americans and this hits home hard. It's especially infuriating when they format their dates. "I had a meeting with so-and-so on 4/5" and nobody has any fucking clue what they mean. The worst part is how hopelessly oblivious they are about it. It's not even like they don't care that nobody does things their stupid way - it's the fact that they're so insulated that they can't even fathom that nobody does things the same way they do. It just goes to show how clueless they are about the rest of the world and how little they get out of their neighborhoods. It drives me mad. At this point, it's just offensive how ignorant they can be sometimes. If you have to work with other people, you should at least make an effort to be aware of the fact that others do things a different way and try to avoid situations like this, but they just refuse to do so. Apologies... /rant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] tamiya_tt02@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm American and always use 30 Dec 2023 as my date scheme. It makes much more sense. I also work in a multicultural laboratory, so there should be no question as to what date it is, but some of my colleagues still use mm-dd-yy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) some of my colleagues still use mm-dd-yy. That makes it even worse. When the date uses slashes I expect it to be American, but with dashes anything other than yyyy-mm-dd doesn't even read as a date to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago Thanks, I appreciate it! I also try to use the name of the month instead of the number as frequently as possible. To be honest, it's not really the order of the fields that matters - format it whichever way makes you happy! Just make sure it's not ambiguous so other people can tell what you mean. And be aware that not everyone interprets things the same way you do permalink fedilink source parent [–] RBWells@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (5 children) Like the American below, I generally use 30-December 2023 partly because I work with an international company but mostly because after the century rolled over and we had years that looked like months I got confused. Had a boss that formatted all dates as YYYY-MM-DD because that makes them sort correctly in lists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Had a boss that formatted all dates as YYYY-MM-DD because that makes them sort correctly in lists. That's how you know it's the correct date format permalink fedilink source parent [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago I work in an international company too! And yet, this confusion persists :-/ I also format everything YYYY-MM-DD for my personal use too. When writing prose, usually some other format is just fine, but I really would love if everyone did year-month-day permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies) [–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago Everyone should be using ISO8601 anyway. yyyy-mm-dd is superior to both and leaves 0 ambiguity to the reader no matter where they're from. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PM_ME_WRISTS_GIRL@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 years ago (11 children) Besides the dates, I also still don't know if 12am is noon or midnight. Do Americans know? Is there a problem with simply counting to 24? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (4 children) 12:00AM is midnight because AM is morning, and it's the beginning of the morning. Using 12-hour time is just a historical artifact from all our analog clocks having 12 hours on their face and not wanting to have to add 12 to the number on the clock for half the day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] nao@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago 12:00AM is midnight because AM is morning, and it's the beginning of the morning. That doesn’t make it less confusing, it’s the beginnng of the morning but uses the highest available number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Akareth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where I'm from, 12:00 a.m. (00:00) is the middle of the night (we call it midnight here), and morning begins when the sun rises (and we say "good morning" during our mornings). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Put more specifically, A.M. and P.M. are abbreviations for "ante meridiem" and "post meridiem", which are Latin for "before mid-day" and "after mid-day" respectively. Since a new day begins at midnight, it follows that midnight is 12:00 A.M. since it's the 12 o'clock that is before mid-day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] misophist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yes, it makes perfect sense to count our hours as such: 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 /s permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) 12AM is midnight. As for the other part I have this mind blowing concept for you, our culture is not the same as yours. We have our own ways of doing things, just like you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments load more comments (5 replies) [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (5 children) PM is evening, AM is morning. I prefer 24hr time but 12hr is not confusing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Exactly and it's such a minor thing to bitch about, I understand the date system frustration but over using AM/PM vs 24? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The notations can be confusing, especially around noon and midnight. Is midnight am or pm when it's equally distant to both the previous and the next noon? Why does 12am not follow 11am??? Where I live we use 12hr time in casual spoken language but pretty much always specify the time of day as well, like eight in the evening or twelve at midnight. But for anything written or even remotely formal, 24h time is used for obvious reasons. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (8 replies) [–] mmagod@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago heck even inside these borders.. the concept of timezones blows their minds at work lol.. them: "yeah let's set a meeting at 9am!" me: eastern? pacific? central? help me... heeeelllp meee permalink fedilink source parent [–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, we'll have the meeting on 3/2/2023 And I'm like.... FUCK. I'll have to ask again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hate when software is hard coded either those stupid fucking dates. I generally uninstall permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankton@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Oh god or when you can choose between 4/5/23 or 5/4/23 and your like.... '_' permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] tamiya_tt02@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm American and always use 30 Dec 2023 as my date scheme. It makes much more sense. I also work in a multicultural laboratory, so there should be no question as to what date it is, but some of my colleagues still use mm-dd-yy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) some of my colleagues still use mm-dd-yy. That makes it even worse. When the date uses slashes I expect it to be American, but with dashes anything other than yyyy-mm-dd doesn't even read as a date to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago Thanks, I appreciate it! I also try to use the name of the month instead of the number as frequently as possible. To be honest, it's not really the order of the fields that matters - format it whichever way makes you happy! Just make sure it's not ambiguous so other people can tell what you mean. And be aware that not everyone interprets things the same way you do permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) some of my colleagues still use mm-dd-yy. That makes it even worse. When the date uses slashes I expect it to be American, but with dashes anything other than yyyy-mm-dd doesn't even read as a date to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago Thanks, I appreciate it! I also try to use the name of the month instead of the number as frequently as possible. To be honest, it's not really the order of the fields that matters - format it whichever way makes you happy! Just make sure it's not ambiguous so other people can tell what you mean. And be aware that not everyone interprets things the same way you do permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (5 children) Like the American below, I generally use 30-December 2023 partly because I work with an international company but mostly because after the century rolled over and we had years that looked like months I got confused. Had a boss that formatted all dates as YYYY-MM-DD because that makes them sort correctly in lists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Had a boss that formatted all dates as YYYY-MM-DD because that makes them sort correctly in lists. That's how you know it's the correct date format permalink fedilink source parent [–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago I work in an international company too! And yet, this confusion persists :-/ I also format everything YYYY-MM-DD for my personal use too. When writing prose, usually some other format is just fine, but I really would love if everyone did year-month-day permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Had a boss that formatted all dates as YYYY-MM-DD because that makes them sort correctly in lists. That's how you know it's the correct date format permalink fedilink source parent
[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago I work in an international company too! And yet, this confusion persists :-/ I also format everything YYYY-MM-DD for my personal use too. When writing prose, usually some other format is just fine, but I really would love if everyone did year-month-day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago Everyone should be using ISO8601 anyway. yyyy-mm-dd is superior to both and leaves 0 ambiguity to the reader no matter where they're from. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PM_ME_WRISTS_GIRL@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 years ago (11 children) Besides the dates, I also still don't know if 12am is noon or midnight. Do Americans know? Is there a problem with simply counting to 24? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (4 children) 12:00AM is midnight because AM is morning, and it's the beginning of the morning. Using 12-hour time is just a historical artifact from all our analog clocks having 12 hours on their face and not wanting to have to add 12 to the number on the clock for half the day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] nao@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago 12:00AM is midnight because AM is morning, and it's the beginning of the morning. That doesn’t make it less confusing, it’s the beginnng of the morning but uses the highest available number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Akareth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where I'm from, 12:00 a.m. (00:00) is the middle of the night (we call it midnight here), and morning begins when the sun rises (and we say "good morning" during our mornings). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Put more specifically, A.M. and P.M. are abbreviations for "ante meridiem" and "post meridiem", which are Latin for "before mid-day" and "after mid-day" respectively. Since a new day begins at midnight, it follows that midnight is 12:00 A.M. since it's the 12 o'clock that is before mid-day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] misophist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yes, it makes perfect sense to count our hours as such: 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 /s permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) 12AM is midnight. As for the other part I have this mind blowing concept for you, our culture is not the same as yours. We have our own ways of doing things, just like you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments load more comments (5 replies) [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (5 children) PM is evening, AM is morning. I prefer 24hr time but 12hr is not confusing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Exactly and it's such a minor thing to bitch about, I understand the date system frustration but over using AM/PM vs 24? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The notations can be confusing, especially around noon and midnight. Is midnight am or pm when it's equally distant to both the previous and the next noon? Why does 12am not follow 11am??? Where I live we use 12hr time in casual spoken language but pretty much always specify the time of day as well, like eight in the evening or twelve at midnight. But for anything written or even remotely formal, 24h time is used for obvious reasons. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (8 replies)
[–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (4 children) 12:00AM is midnight because AM is morning, and it's the beginning of the morning. Using 12-hour time is just a historical artifact from all our analog clocks having 12 hours on their face and not wanting to have to add 12 to the number on the clock for half the day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] nao@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago 12:00AM is midnight because AM is morning, and it's the beginning of the morning. That doesn’t make it less confusing, it’s the beginnng of the morning but uses the highest available number. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Akareth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where I'm from, 12:00 a.m. (00:00) is the middle of the night (we call it midnight here), and morning begins when the sun rises (and we say "good morning" during our mornings). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Put more specifically, A.M. and P.M. are abbreviations for "ante meridiem" and "post meridiem", which are Latin for "before mid-day" and "after mid-day" respectively. Since a new day begins at midnight, it follows that midnight is 12:00 A.M. since it's the 12 o'clock that is before mid-day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] misophist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yes, it makes perfect sense to count our hours as such: 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 /s permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago 12:00AM is midnight because AM is morning, and it's the beginning of the morning. That doesn’t make it less confusing, it’s the beginnng of the morning but uses the highest available number. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Akareth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Where I'm from, 12:00 a.m. (00:00) is the middle of the night (we call it midnight here), and morning begins when the sun rises (and we say "good morning" during our mornings). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Put more specifically, A.M. and P.M. are abbreviations for "ante meridiem" and "post meridiem", which are Latin for "before mid-day" and "after mid-day" respectively. Since a new day begins at midnight, it follows that midnight is 12:00 A.M. since it's the 12 o'clock that is before mid-day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rehwyn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Put more specifically, A.M. and P.M. are abbreviations for "ante meridiem" and "post meridiem", which are Latin for "before mid-day" and "after mid-day" respectively. Since a new day begins at midnight, it follows that midnight is 12:00 A.M. since it's the 12 o'clock that is before mid-day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] misophist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yes, it makes perfect sense to count our hours as such: 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) 12AM is midnight. As for the other part I have this mind blowing concept for you, our culture is not the same as yours. We have our own ways of doing things, just like you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments load more comments (5 replies)
[–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (5 children) PM is evening, AM is morning. I prefer 24hr time but 12hr is not confusing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Exactly and it's such a minor thing to bitch about, I understand the date system frustration but over using AM/PM vs 24? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The notations can be confusing, especially around noon and midnight. Is midnight am or pm when it's equally distant to both the previous and the next noon? Why does 12am not follow 11am??? Where I live we use 12hr time in casual spoken language but pretty much always specify the time of day as well, like eight in the evening or twelve at midnight. But for anything written or even remotely formal, 24h time is used for obvious reasons. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies)
[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago Exactly and it's such a minor thing to bitch about, I understand the date system frustration but over using AM/PM vs 24? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The notations can be confusing, especially around noon and midnight. Is midnight am or pm when it's equally distant to both the previous and the next noon? Why does 12am not follow 11am??? Where I live we use 12hr time in casual spoken language but pretty much always specify the time of day as well, like eight in the evening or twelve at midnight. But for anything written or even remotely formal, 24h time is used for obvious reasons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mmagod@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago heck even inside these borders.. the concept of timezones blows their minds at work lol.. them: "yeah let's set a meeting at 9am!" me: eastern? pacific? central? help me... heeeelllp meee permalink fedilink source parent
[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, we'll have the meeting on 3/2/2023 And I'm like.... FUCK. I'll have to ask again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I hate when software is hard coded either those stupid fucking dates. I generally uninstall permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankton@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Oh god or when you can choose between 4/5/23 or 5/4/23 and your like.... '_' permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankton@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* Oh god or when you can choose between 4/5/23 or 5/4/23 and your like.... '_' permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago (5 children) Isn't basing a temperature scale on the freezing and boiling points of water a bit arbitrary in and of itself? The reason they are arbitrary numbers in Fahrenheit is because they weren't considerations when the scale was made. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Deme@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Water is everywhere. Cooking, weather, etc. You are also water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (4 children) Except that water boils at different temperatures when exposed to different amounts of pressure. So this works pretty universally on earth.... Near the ground/ocean level (plus or minus a few hundred meters). Once you get outside of that specific condition the numbers move. So yes, fairly arbitrary. Let's all switch to Kelvin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago The nice thing about celcius and kelvin is that they're the same scale, but celcius is just shifted 273.15 units. And it's more intuitive for humans to work with smaller numbers with bigger relative differences. But yes, kelvin would be a lot better to work with, especially considering stuff like doubling temperature (doubling energy) would actually work correctly in kelvin. But if there's one thing that makes a lot of sense to base temperature enough for human use, I would indeed say it's water, because all life uses water, we are completely surrounded by it, and it's super important to nearly everything we do too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deme@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Sure, but the vast majority of people live in low lying areas and even then it doesn't shift that drastically. You need to climb a mountain to see the difference when it comes to applications of daily life. Although now that I think about it. The same criticism applies to pretty much every definition of temperature that is based on the behaviour of matter. This also applies to Kelvin. Temperature is a property of matter and every type of matter behaves differently. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] BluesF@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is, but if you look at how Farenheit was conceived it's absurdly nonsensical. 0°F is the freezing temperature or some mixture of chemicals, and 90°F is a guess at human body temperature lmao. And the freezing/boiling points of water are arbitrary except in that they are used to actually define both scales. They provide easily measurable standards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [–] force@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children) Well TECHNICALLY it's not based on the state change of water. It's based on the formula C = K - 273.15 where K = 1.380649×10^−23 / (6.62607015×10^−34)(9192631770) * h * Δν[Cs] / k where k is the Boltzmann constant (1.380649×10^−23 J * K^-1), h is the Planck constant, and Δν[Cs] is the hyperfine transition frequency of Caesium So even MORE abstract and unrelatable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments load more comments (6 replies) load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Deme@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Water is everywhere. Cooking, weather, etc. You are also water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (4 children) Except that water boils at different temperatures when exposed to different amounts of pressure. So this works pretty universally on earth.... Near the ground/ocean level (plus or minus a few hundred meters). Once you get outside of that specific condition the numbers move. So yes, fairly arbitrary. Let's all switch to Kelvin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago The nice thing about celcius and kelvin is that they're the same scale, but celcius is just shifted 273.15 units. And it's more intuitive for humans to work with smaller numbers with bigger relative differences. But yes, kelvin would be a lot better to work with, especially considering stuff like doubling temperature (doubling energy) would actually work correctly in kelvin. But if there's one thing that makes a lot of sense to base temperature enough for human use, I would indeed say it's water, because all life uses water, we are completely surrounded by it, and it's super important to nearly everything we do too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deme@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Sure, but the vast majority of people live in low lying areas and even then it doesn't shift that drastically. You need to climb a mountain to see the difference when it comes to applications of daily life. Although now that I think about it. The same criticism applies to pretty much every definition of temperature that is based on the behaviour of matter. This also applies to Kelvin. Temperature is a property of matter and every type of matter behaves differently. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (4 children) Except that water boils at different temperatures when exposed to different amounts of pressure. So this works pretty universally on earth.... Near the ground/ocean level (plus or minus a few hundred meters). Once you get outside of that specific condition the numbers move. So yes, fairly arbitrary. Let's all switch to Kelvin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago The nice thing about celcius and kelvin is that they're the same scale, but celcius is just shifted 273.15 units. And it's more intuitive for humans to work with smaller numbers with bigger relative differences. But yes, kelvin would be a lot better to work with, especially considering stuff like doubling temperature (doubling energy) would actually work correctly in kelvin. But if there's one thing that makes a lot of sense to base temperature enough for human use, I would indeed say it's water, because all life uses water, we are completely surrounded by it, and it's super important to nearly everything we do too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Deme@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Sure, but the vast majority of people live in low lying areas and even then it doesn't shift that drastically. You need to climb a mountain to see the difference when it comes to applications of daily life. Although now that I think about it. The same criticism applies to pretty much every definition of temperature that is based on the behaviour of matter. This also applies to Kelvin. Temperature is a property of matter and every type of matter behaves differently. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago The nice thing about celcius and kelvin is that they're the same scale, but celcius is just shifted 273.15 units. And it's more intuitive for humans to work with smaller numbers with bigger relative differences. But yes, kelvin would be a lot better to work with, especially considering stuff like doubling temperature (doubling energy) would actually work correctly in kelvin. But if there's one thing that makes a lot of sense to base temperature enough for human use, I would indeed say it's water, because all life uses water, we are completely surrounded by it, and it's super important to nearly everything we do too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deme@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Sure, but the vast majority of people live in low lying areas and even then it doesn't shift that drastically. You need to climb a mountain to see the difference when it comes to applications of daily life. Although now that I think about it. The same criticism applies to pretty much every definition of temperature that is based on the behaviour of matter. This also applies to Kelvin. Temperature is a property of matter and every type of matter behaves differently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is, but if you look at how Farenheit was conceived it's absurdly nonsensical. 0°F is the freezing temperature or some mixture of chemicals, and 90°F is a guess at human body temperature lmao. And the freezing/boiling points of water are arbitrary except in that they are used to actually define both scales. They provide easily measurable standards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] force@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children) Well TECHNICALLY it's not based on the state change of water. It's based on the formula C = K - 273.15 where K = 1.380649×10^−23 / (6.62607015×10^−34)(9192631770) * h * Δν[Cs] / k where k is the Boltzmann constant (1.380649×10^−23 J * K^-1), h is the Planck constant, and Δν[Cs] is the hyperfine transition frequency of Caesium So even MORE abstract and unrelatable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments load more comments (6 replies)
[–] droog_the_droog@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (1 child) Found the Finn, everyone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago Perkele! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (6 children) I've never been to a sauna before, but are you guys okay with boiling yourselves and then immediately freezing yourselves? Doesn't that seem very painful? Are you guys used to being Wim Hof all the time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Deme@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The thing to remember is that air is a great insulator. Air at 100°C isn't nearly as bad as say water or metal at the same temperature against the skin. In fact, the air that comes in contact with the comparatively cold human skin will cool down rapidly, forming a layer of cooler air around you and lessening the sensation of heat further. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) SCIENCE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) 100°C is a quite hot one. It could hurt your nose and ears a bit, especially if they having a steaming session. The cold water (normally ~10°C) does not hurt at all. The first minute your brain is not able to differentiate the temperature at all. After that it gets quite quickly into: ohh I should leave! Btw: you should try sauna at some point. Especially with the steaming it's amazing. There are also milder ones with ~80°C, I would recommend at the start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deme@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago 100°C is nice. And what's a steaming session? Throwing water onto the rocks for steam every now and then is just standard operating procedure. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] DrMango@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes. It's wonderful. It feels great physically and mentally. Wim Hoff is a bit crazy tho tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Wim Hof, the guy who shredded his intestines by giving himself an enema from a public water fountain while waiting to meet his estranged son? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Deme@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The thing to remember is that air is a great insulator. Air at 100°C isn't nearly as bad as say water or metal at the same temperature against the skin. In fact, the air that comes in contact with the comparatively cold human skin will cool down rapidly, forming a layer of cooler air around you and lessening the sensation of heat further. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) SCIENCE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) SCIENCE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) 100°C is a quite hot one. It could hurt your nose and ears a bit, especially if they having a steaming session. The cold water (normally ~10°C) does not hurt at all. The first minute your brain is not able to differentiate the temperature at all. After that it gets quite quickly into: ohh I should leave! Btw: you should try sauna at some point. Especially with the steaming it's amazing. There are also milder ones with ~80°C, I would recommend at the start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deme@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago 100°C is nice. And what's a steaming session? Throwing water onto the rocks for steam every now and then is just standard operating procedure. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Deme@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago 100°C is nice. And what's a steaming session? Throwing water onto the rocks for steam every now and then is just standard operating procedure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DrMango@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes. It's wonderful. It feels great physically and mentally. Wim Hoff is a bit crazy tho tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Wim Hof, the guy who shredded his intestines by giving himself an enema from a public water fountain while waiting to meet his estranged son? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Found the Scandinavian permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I object. Kelvin is the superior one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hmm, I sure love adding 273.15 to literally every single temperature I encounter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Wogi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Oh sure, so what are you, a Newton scale guy? "What is it outside? 6? Lovely. High of 12? Fuck that noise I'm staying inside at a nice comfortable 5." permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hmm, I sure love adding 273.15 to literally every single temperature I encounter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Wogi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Oh sure, so what are you, a Newton scale guy? "What is it outside? 6? Lovely. High of 12? Fuck that noise I'm staying inside at a nice comfortable 5." permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Oh sure, so what are you, a Newton scale guy? "What is it outside? 6? Lovely. High of 12? Fuck that noise I'm staying inside at a nice comfortable 5." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 4 points 2 years ago I've never heard Celsius be explained more perfect than this. Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
