▲ 68 ▼ Mozilla does not want to support PWAs in Firefox, yet MDN has a PWA manifest and can be installed in Chromium. (discuss.tchncs.de) submitted 3 years ago by decodehug647@discuss.tchncs.de to c/firefox@lemmy.ml 32 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] gamey@feddit.rocks 9 points 3 years ago (3 children) Are they PWAs tho, or just shortcuts? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) They open in a window separate from the browser and don't display the browser toolbar, so not just shortcuts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamey@feddit.rocks 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) The main purpose of PWAs is not to remove the browser toolbar but rather cache most of the website to improve speed and reduce data usage if I am not wrong, there are external tools to get rid of the toolbar but Firefox dropped the PWA spec which includes a lot more than just that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* The caching is the result of service workers which Firefox definitely supports. edit: oh just scrolled down and saw you already commented that later. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vent@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Real PWAs, though PWAs aren't that different from shortcuts tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamey@feddit.rocks 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) As far as I know their main purpose is to cache various parts of the website properly which is a lot more than just a shortcut. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.one 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Regular websites can do that too using service workers - Lemmy's webapp uses this to show an error when an instance is unreachable What we call a PWA is usually just a webpage with a webmanifest, and a service worker script to manage loading those cached resources you mentioned permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamey@feddit.rocks 2 points 3 years ago Seems like you are right, the caching for proper offline usage and use with very limited internet connections is all done trough service workers. Their main job seems to be system integration and while Firefox Android kind of sucks at that too it doesn't seem like they ever cut that down so they just dropped it for desktop users. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lw6352@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago On Android at least, Firefox PWA's don't seem to support registering system-level things (like 'Share To' handlers) - you need to use a Chrome PWA for that.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) They open in a window separate from the browser and don't display the browser toolbar, so not just shortcuts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamey@feddit.rocks 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) The main purpose of PWAs is not to remove the browser toolbar but rather cache most of the website to improve speed and reduce data usage if I am not wrong, there are external tools to get rid of the toolbar but Firefox dropped the PWA spec which includes a lot more than just that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* The caching is the result of service workers which Firefox definitely supports. edit: oh just scrolled down and saw you already commented that later. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gamey@feddit.rocks 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) The main purpose of PWAs is not to remove the browser toolbar but rather cache most of the website to improve speed and reduce data usage if I am not wrong, there are external tools to get rid of the toolbar but Firefox dropped the PWA spec which includes a lot more than just that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* The caching is the result of service workers which Firefox definitely supports. edit: oh just scrolled down and saw you already commented that later. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 2 points 3 years ago* The caching is the result of service workers which Firefox definitely supports. edit: oh just scrolled down and saw you already commented that later. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vent@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Real PWAs, though PWAs aren't that different from shortcuts tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamey@feddit.rocks 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) As far as I know their main purpose is to cache various parts of the website properly which is a lot more than just a shortcut. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.one 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Regular websites can do that too using service workers - Lemmy's webapp uses this to show an error when an instance is unreachable What we call a PWA is usually just a webpage with a webmanifest, and a service worker script to manage loading those cached resources you mentioned permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamey@feddit.rocks 2 points 3 years ago Seems like you are right, the caching for proper offline usage and use with very limited internet connections is all done trough service workers. Their main job seems to be system integration and while Firefox Android kind of sucks at that too it doesn't seem like they ever cut that down so they just dropped it for desktop users. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gamey@feddit.rocks 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) As far as I know their main purpose is to cache various parts of the website properly which is a lot more than just a shortcut. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.one 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Regular websites can do that too using service workers - Lemmy's webapp uses this to show an error when an instance is unreachable What we call a PWA is usually just a webpage with a webmanifest, and a service worker script to manage loading those cached resources you mentioned permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamey@feddit.rocks 2 points 3 years ago Seems like you are right, the caching for proper offline usage and use with very limited internet connections is all done trough service workers. Their main job seems to be system integration and while Firefox Android kind of sucks at that too it doesn't seem like they ever cut that down so they just dropped it for desktop users. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemann@lemmy.one 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Regular websites can do that too using service workers - Lemmy's webapp uses this to show an error when an instance is unreachable What we call a PWA is usually just a webpage with a webmanifest, and a service worker script to manage loading those cached resources you mentioned permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gamey@feddit.rocks 2 points 3 years ago Seems like you are right, the caching for proper offline usage and use with very limited internet connections is all done trough service workers. Their main job seems to be system integration and while Firefox Android kind of sucks at that too it doesn't seem like they ever cut that down so they just dropped it for desktop users. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gamey@feddit.rocks 2 points 3 years ago Seems like you are right, the caching for proper offline usage and use with very limited internet connections is all done trough service workers. Their main job seems to be system integration and while Firefox Android kind of sucks at that too it doesn't seem like they ever cut that down so they just dropped it for desktop users. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lw6352@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago On Android at least, Firefox PWA's don't seem to support registering system-level things (like 'Share To' handlers) - you need to use a Chrome PWA for that.... permalink fedilink source parent