▲ 342 ▼ My holy trinity of trust (lemmy.ml) submitted 3 years ago by sgtnasty@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 98 comments fedilink hide all child comments The inner circle so to speak
[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 years ago (1 child) keepass > bitwarden vpn providers should be reviewed regularly email is inherintly insecure/non-private, self hosted is best permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 9 points 3 years ago (3 children) why do you prefer keepass to bitwarden? has it better privacy or is it just a personal preference because you like the UI more for example? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children) keepass is a different paradigm. it uses a locally encrypted file. many frontends for it (use keepassxc and keepassdx). dont have to rely on some 3rd party, even if they say they have e2ee. theres no better privacy (and security) for an app than not using it with the internet. im not too concerned about ui for pw manager personally, the less time i spend w it unlocked the better. only (slight) problem for me: multi device usage (i just copy the file onto my phone occasionally). general rule of thumb: if it can be selfhosted, it is best to. i think bitwarden is the best one of its type, it comes down to your needs and threat model permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Jonsk@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Idk if anyone else mentioned this but bitwarden can be selfhosted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago good point! permalink fedilink source parent [–] king_link1@feddit.dk 8 points 3 years ago I use syncthing to sync my KeePass file, and I highly recommend it. Very easy to set up permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 5 points 3 years ago* (2 children) I really like the cross device sync, even tho it's a security risk of course. also, I don't know anything about self hosting (might get into it when I got the time), so bitwarden might be the best pw manager for my requirements rn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's possible to sync keepass using syncthing, i use it that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) not on iOS, at least last I looked into it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* Well I have both my kidneys. Edit: there's a fork of it on the app Store called Möbius sync. permalink fedilink source parent [–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago sorry i didnt mention but yeah like the other reply says u can absolutely sync, i just personally prefer not to permalink fedilink source parent [–] iloverocks@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Many use syncthing to sync their keepass files I personally just use my nextcloud permalink fedilink source parent [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Mainly cuz it doesn't store your passwords on someone else's computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can selfhost bitwarden, there's also vaultwarden, an open bitearden api implementation. You could host this on an internal-only server. But you also can sync your single password file with a lot devices and use keepass, I just find that a bit annoying. You also cannot share some passwords with your relatives easily that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Hey it's fine if you trust them, it's a very convenient service and from what I found it's pretty secure, since there's no way to recover logins if you forget your master pass. But i personally don't like the idea of having passwords on someone else's server and I'm too stoopid to set-up my own instance on a docker container server thingy. Syncthing just works for me, got GUI and everything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Totaly valid choice! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooki@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago its more user friendly. Just a file you have to have. You can encrypt that double and tripple on bitwarden nope. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 9 points 3 years ago (3 children) why do you prefer keepass to bitwarden? has it better privacy or is it just a personal preference because you like the UI more for example? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children) keepass is a different paradigm. it uses a locally encrypted file. many frontends for it (use keepassxc and keepassdx). dont have to rely on some 3rd party, even if they say they have e2ee. theres no better privacy (and security) for an app than not using it with the internet. im not too concerned about ui for pw manager personally, the less time i spend w it unlocked the better. only (slight) problem for me: multi device usage (i just copy the file onto my phone occasionally). general rule of thumb: if it can be selfhosted, it is best to. i think bitwarden is the best one of its type, it comes down to your needs and threat model permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Jonsk@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Idk if anyone else mentioned this but bitwarden can be selfhosted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago good point! permalink fedilink source parent [–] king_link1@feddit.dk 8 points 3 years ago I use syncthing to sync my KeePass file, and I highly recommend it. Very easy to set up permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 5 points 3 years ago* (2 children) I really like the cross device sync, even tho it's a security risk of course. also, I don't know anything about self hosting (might get into it when I got the time), so bitwarden might be the best pw manager for my requirements rn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's possible to sync keepass using syncthing, i use it that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) not on iOS, at least last I looked into it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* Well I have both my kidneys. Edit: there's a fork of it on the app Store called Möbius sync. permalink fedilink source parent [–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago sorry i didnt mention but yeah like the other reply says u can absolutely sync, i just personally prefer not to permalink fedilink source parent [–] iloverocks@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Many use syncthing to sync their keepass files I personally just use my nextcloud permalink fedilink source parent [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Mainly cuz it doesn't store your passwords on someone else's computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can selfhost bitwarden, there's also vaultwarden, an open bitearden api implementation. You could host this on an internal-only server. But you also can sync your single password file with a lot devices and use keepass, I just find that a bit annoying. You also cannot share some passwords with your relatives easily that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Hey it's fine if you trust them, it's a very convenient service and from what I found it's pretty secure, since there's no way to recover logins if you forget your master pass. But i personally don't like the idea of having passwords on someone else's server and I'm too stoopid to set-up my own instance on a docker container server thingy. Syncthing just works for me, got GUI and everything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Totaly valid choice! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooki@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago its more user friendly. Just a file you have to have. You can encrypt that double and tripple on bitwarden nope. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children) keepass is a different paradigm. it uses a locally encrypted file. many frontends for it (use keepassxc and keepassdx). dont have to rely on some 3rd party, even if they say they have e2ee. theres no better privacy (and security) for an app than not using it with the internet. im not too concerned about ui for pw manager personally, the less time i spend w it unlocked the better. only (slight) problem for me: multi device usage (i just copy the file onto my phone occasionally). general rule of thumb: if it can be selfhosted, it is best to. i think bitwarden is the best one of its type, it comes down to your needs and threat model permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Jonsk@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Idk if anyone else mentioned this but bitwarden can be selfhosted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago good point! permalink fedilink source parent [–] king_link1@feddit.dk 8 points 3 years ago I use syncthing to sync my KeePass file, and I highly recommend it. Very easy to set up permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 5 points 3 years ago* (2 children) I really like the cross device sync, even tho it's a security risk of course. also, I don't know anything about self hosting (might get into it when I got the time), so bitwarden might be the best pw manager for my requirements rn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's possible to sync keepass using syncthing, i use it that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) not on iOS, at least last I looked into it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* Well I have both my kidneys. Edit: there's a fork of it on the app Store called Möbius sync. permalink fedilink source parent [–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago sorry i didnt mention but yeah like the other reply says u can absolutely sync, i just personally prefer not to permalink fedilink source parent [–] iloverocks@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Many use syncthing to sync their keepass files I personally just use my nextcloud permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jonsk@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Idk if anyone else mentioned this but bitwarden can be selfhosted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago good point! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] king_link1@feddit.dk 8 points 3 years ago I use syncthing to sync my KeePass file, and I highly recommend it. Very easy to set up permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArcticLynx@feddit.de 5 points 3 years ago* (2 children) I really like the cross device sync, even tho it's a security risk of course. also, I don't know anything about self hosting (might get into it when I got the time), so bitwarden might be the best pw manager for my requirements rn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's possible to sync keepass using syncthing, i use it that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) not on iOS, at least last I looked into it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* Well I have both my kidneys. Edit: there's a fork of it on the app Store called Möbius sync. permalink fedilink source parent [–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago sorry i didnt mention but yeah like the other reply says u can absolutely sync, i just personally prefer not to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's possible to sync keepass using syncthing, i use it that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) not on iOS, at least last I looked into it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* Well I have both my kidneys. Edit: there's a fork of it on the app Store called Möbius sync. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) not on iOS, at least last I looked into it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* Well I have both my kidneys. Edit: there's a fork of it on the app Store called Möbius sync. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* Well I have both my kidneys. Edit: there's a fork of it on the app Store called Möbius sync. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago sorry i didnt mention but yeah like the other reply says u can absolutely sync, i just personally prefer not to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iloverocks@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Many use syncthing to sync their keepass files I personally just use my nextcloud permalink fedilink source parent
[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Mainly cuz it doesn't store your passwords on someone else's computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can selfhost bitwarden, there's also vaultwarden, an open bitearden api implementation. You could host this on an internal-only server. But you also can sync your single password file with a lot devices and use keepass, I just find that a bit annoying. You also cannot share some passwords with your relatives easily that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Hey it's fine if you trust them, it's a very convenient service and from what I found it's pretty secure, since there's no way to recover logins if you forget your master pass. But i personally don't like the idea of having passwords on someone else's server and I'm too stoopid to set-up my own instance on a docker container server thingy. Syncthing just works for me, got GUI and everything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Totaly valid choice! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) You can selfhost bitwarden, there's also vaultwarden, an open bitearden api implementation. You could host this on an internal-only server. But you also can sync your single password file with a lot devices and use keepass, I just find that a bit annoying. You also cannot share some passwords with your relatives easily that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Hey it's fine if you trust them, it's a very convenient service and from what I found it's pretty secure, since there's no way to recover logins if you forget your master pass. But i personally don't like the idea of having passwords on someone else's server and I'm too stoopid to set-up my own instance on a docker container server thingy. Syncthing just works for me, got GUI and everything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Totaly valid choice! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Hey it's fine if you trust them, it's a very convenient service and from what I found it's pretty secure, since there's no way to recover logins if you forget your master pass. But i personally don't like the idea of having passwords on someone else's server and I'm too stoopid to set-up my own instance on a docker container server thingy. Syncthing just works for me, got GUI and everything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Totaly valid choice! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Totaly valid choice! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago its more user friendly. Just a file you have to have. You can encrypt that double and tripple on bitwarden nope. permalink fedilink source parent