CNN — Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, the two Georgia election workers who won a nearly $150 million verdict against Rudy Giuliani for defamation on Friday, have sued him again, asking a federal judge to permanently prohibit him from lying about them.

The lawsuit comes as Giuliani has continued to make false statements about their work as absentee ballot counters in the 2020 election.

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[–] 85 points 2 years ago (5 children)

There's no way they can permanently prohibit him from lying, but they can permanently get paid each time he does.

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  • [–] 68 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Ignoring a court order can lead to jail time. Not enough for being part of an attempted coup, but I'll take any of these assholes getting any time in jail at this point.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Dude will be 80 next year, likely ANY jail time is a death sentence.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    My plan for when I am in my 70s is to not be a traitorous lying sack of shit so I won't get thrown in jail and die there. That fucker has been dodging consequences for decades.

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    He'd play the "too sick for jail" card and show up to court with an oxygen tank

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    No judge is going to issue a civil court order restricting someone's speech in perpetuity (and if they did, the judge would end up in hot water). That's just not what they're for.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    I'm curious what remedy there is for someone defaming you that's broke. Imagine Rudy getting sued into bankruptcy. On paper, he could have no assets and no income but mooching off the rich fucks still shielding him. What's to stop him from defaming people then?

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    We did away with debtor's prisons long ago.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think you could jail him still for the original offense and not have it be a debt issue. The court finds him guilty for defamation, but he has no assets to sell, so he's sentenced to jail time instead.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That’s called being “judgement proof”. It’s not an established legal thing, but it’s something lawyers will jokingly refer to. Because they know that even if they successfully get a judgement against the offender, there’s zero chance of actually collecting the judgement. No assets and no income? Good luck collecting on that million dollar judgement, because the court’s actual methods of recourse are limited.

    You could potentially put a lien on their assets, so you claim the value if they ever sell. But if they have no assets, there’s nothing to put a lien on. You could potentially garnish their wages. But if they have no income, there’s nothing to garnish.

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