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Mastodon founder touts Threads' federation, saying it makes his X rival 'a far more attractive option' (techcrunch.com)
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[+] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Okay but, we all know that already. This discussion is about federating with Lemmy/Fedi.

    Tell that to the astroturfers simping for FB/Threads...

    And do you understand how you reinforce an argument with supporting evidence? I wanted to establish factual information supporting a clear history of the company's bad practices. That was/is relevant to consideration of federating with a platform.

    In fact, lemmy.world has already defederated with instances due to failure to moderate far-right extremism. So why would they federate with Threads when far-right extremism is already a systemic issue and they have admitted lemmy lacks the necessary moderation tools to manage Threads federation?

    It seems obvious to me that is a bad idea and it would cultivate a more toxic user experience with more recruitment for radicalism/extremism.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Tell that to the astroturfers simping for FB/Threads…

    No one is astroturfing lemmy. People who disagree with you are not paid actors. They just disagree with you.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I wasn't referring to people disagreeing with me. I upvoted users I disagreed with in this post's comments to promote discussion (such as upvoting your downvoted comment here).

    I was referring to people that engage in disingenuous argumentative tactics clearly pushing an agenda, whose presence is also accompanied by what seems like blatant vote manipulation/brigading. This was present when Threads federation was originally a being discussed a little while back. That's what I was referring to.

    I don't think I'm going to go out of my way to track down examples, but you may be able to find some from the link to where my comment is originally from.

    You can also assume I'm wrong, and that's okay by me. But astroturfing is absolutely a tactic Meta employs. Source

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yes you are; you've been a lame-ass anti-disestablisment shill the entire time you've been here. Shut the hell up.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I do in fact disagree with you, yes. I am not, however, paid for it

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It doesn't make you any less of a shill.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    We're talking about astroturfing, so yes it is quite literally the difference.

    You're not guaranteed a place where your opinions are the only ones expressed, ever in life.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    There's no hypocrisy; you're just stating a false equivalence. Not to mention totally ignoring the entire argument about radicalization on threads/inability to moderate it on lemmy.

    And you keep stating that my points establishing character in regard to Meta/Threads are irrelevant, but you aren't making a good argument as to why. You fixate on that as a strawman argument while ignoring my point that lack of moderation on threads will negatively affect fediverse communities with toxic/extremist content.

    You're arguing like a petulant middle schooler with ad hominem and strawman tactics. Get back to me if you can speak like a grown-up. Otherwise I'm not going to engage with you. (Before you "no u" me with another false equivalence, my remarks were not on the same personal attack level.)

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