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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

From your own link:

However, pornography use was associated with increases in both self-esteem and symptoms of depression and anxiety, albeit only among adolescent women in one of the two panels. In addition, low subjective well-being was associated with a subsequent increase in pornography use, but only in female adolescents in one panel. This study’s results are not consistent with concerns about pornography use negatively contributing to male adolescents’ psychological well-being, but suggest potential antagonistic links between pornography use and specific facets of mental well-being in adolescent women. Such links should be considered tentative until verified with further research.

Seems that your own study you posted acknowledges that porn with adolescents, mainly with adolescent males, is generally accepted and understood with their negative links.

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[–] wahming@monyet.cc 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Yes, I tried to link a reasonably balanced view of the issue. It'd be nice if you didn't cherry pick statements. The point being, different studies have shown different results, and there's no concrete conclusion to date. Hence your statement about 'universal acceptance' is extremely debatable.

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[–] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

So you accuse someone of cherrypicking while admitting you cherrypicked yourself (which I should discard because your opinion of balanced is right and his of general consensus is wrong, obviously...)? Personally, I see a big difference between proper sexual education and children beginning to explore puberty with parental guidance and streamers drawing porn for money and exposure to sexuality becoming a circlejerk to personality cults.

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[–] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Balanced in the sense that I acknowledged there's an ongoing debate and linked a source that covered both sides, unlike a certain someone who claimed 'universal acceptance' of their worldview. Hopefully you can see a difference there.

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[–] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

You are asking me whether I assume universal and general are used interchangeably most of the time or whether I assume that when people say universal consensus they do so literally and without any degree of dissension, something which rarely occurs. At this point we might as well be talking about which dictionary definition of a word is the "real" definition. His wording could have been better to avoid criticism, sure.

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[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

The last sentence of your quote literally says that there is no actual conclusive data from this, and any links need further study to be considered real and actionable.

You didnt even cherry pick this correctly

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Conclusions

Despite common public concerns that surround adolescent use of sexual media [66], the results of this first longitudinal assessment of the relationship between pornography use and adolescents’ subjective well-being provide no evidence that pornography use contributes to decreased subjective well-being in adolescent men. We found, however, limited evidence of the contradictory contribution of pornography use to female adolescents’ dysregulated mood and self-evaluation. Future research in this area should use large-scale prospective designs, which would include different developmental stages, to clarify possible effects in adolescent women. Given the public concern surrounding pornography use among adolescents, the veracity of these findings will likely be challenged. Thus, replication of our findings with diverse adolescent samples from other cultural settings is highly warranted.

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[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 2 years ago*

This repeats the exact same point I pointed out. That they found nothing conclusive, only mildly suggestive data, and will need repeated deeper study to confirm if the data pointed towards an actual conclusion or if it was a flaw in the study.

I really wish they taught scientific reading in non-college school, you posted my own evidence for me as if it was a rebuttal

E: also? This study used regular porn, while twitch would have typically woman-led self-led content, which completely shifts the research. So even if this said what you think it says, thats still not conclusive for all porn. Just stereotypical male focused and male directed video porn.

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[–] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago

Peas to apples, that study only involves adolescents, and it doesn't clearly illustrate or partition according to the age groups. It also seems to merely itself to the self-assessment of those polled and particular concerns about body image and inadequacy.