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Threads is officially starting to test ActivityPub integration (www.theverge.com)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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[–] 77 points 2 years ago (29 children)

And hopefully no instance will federate with them... Right?

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Couldn’t just some of y’all defed instead of blocking it wholesale for everyone?

    I thought one of the main perks of federation was user choice?

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well, that's what has always been mentioned, defederated from them, AFAIK there's no way of blocking it completely from the fediverse, so if your instance's admin wants they can decide to not block them and you can interact with meta.

    If your instance defederates and you want to still see their activity then you can choose an instance which is still federated with them.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah and we choose you going somewhere else to play with Facebook.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That’s true this place could really use less users.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This place is growing just fine already, we don’t need to dump 141 million new accounts into it overnight.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's not how federation and mastodon works, and you know that very well.

    Simply don't follow anyone on threads if you don't wanna see thread content. But who TF cares where the content comes from?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Embrace, extend, extinguish. They'll play nice with the Fediverse for a while. Maybe years. But then they'll introduce a new feature to the Fediverse as a "good will gesture". Then they'll make features available to only people federated with Threads. Then they'll make features only people on Threads can see. And so on and so forth. We SHOULD care where the content comes from. Platforms that are neutral should be where our content comes from.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    You're just describing how the fediverse works. One social network that is partially comparable with another network. Like subscribing to pixelated from mastodon, etc. not all features are available, but some are. Not only is there no such thing as a neutral platform, but the decentralization of mastodon and the fediverse in general is specifically to address that.

    The danger of meta is their data scraping - something they can already do anyway without their own servers being federated.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I care. If I start seeing content from Meta in the fediverse I'll probably just leave.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why? Why are humans who use threads so repulsive to you that you leave an entire federated social network just because some people used a particular server?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    It's not because of the humans. Like many other people, I think Facebook/Meta is cancer on society. I don't want anything to do with it.

    I also have other reasons I don't like the fediverse that would make it easier to walk away, especially the political extremism.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I suspect lemm.ee will, but not much beyond that. Hell, theyre still fedded with explodingheads and hexbear.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Threads isn't going to federate with Lemmy. It's not the same sort of communication and the crossovers are ugly and confusing. Mastodon is where the real federation/defederation decisions will take place.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I can see a social media implementation of a communities section and feeding off lemmy that way. Essentially cloning reddit through their users and using lemmy communities content as a Kickstarter tool.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Sure, if they clone Reddit then I definitely could see it, though I think Lemmy communities are a much bigger risk for them to open up to since they're so moderation dependent. At least with Mastodon what you see is all based on your follows. Reddit loves to abdicate on responsibility by just leaving it all to the mods, but I don't think Meta can get away with that, and especially when they don't directly control the mods.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Because?

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Because I don't want Facebook to get my content, nor do I want their content in my feeds. I joined the fediverse to be as far away from corpos (facebook, twitter, youtube) as possible.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Facebook, and literally anyone else, can already get all your content.

    It would take all of a second to scrape your user page. Obviously that wouldn't grant your IP address or anything, but neither would federation.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    1. Meta is only pushing, not pulling. So if you’re an influential person there is less incentive to create a masto account. Threads content will appear in both places, but Mastodon content will only get exposure with mastodon’s smaller user base.

    2. The fear is that the broader Fediverse will get hooked on a flood of Threads content. They have much more daily active users, and as we already know, large instances can easily dominate a feed. And Threads will be gigantic.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    To 1:

    We're starting with the ability to follow threads users from activitypub clients, but we will get to the ability to follow accounts from activitypub servers on threads as well

    If 2. will actually be a problem some instances will defederate, while many users will choose an instance which allows them to follow who they want. I'm all for interoperable social media/messaging, because it gives users the choice.

    I'm curious when they'll add inbound federation. It could lead to massive amounts of spam, so they'll probably block instances or inbound traffic quite quickly.

    Hopefully it won't end like email, where it's really difficult to start federating to the big providers (Threads). But even then, we'll still be able to choose any of the current instances and continue without them. Edit: It's not a big problem if Threads doesn't show all posts, since other instances will still show them to users who care. Compared to email where a 100% delivery rate is critical (at least for important stuff).

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