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Remember, if Fascism wins it is YOUR FAULT. (slrpnk.net)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[–] 15 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

Counterargument: If the democrats don't want to lose they should stop funding mass genocide.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    To be fair the GOP would happily fund it too

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    How can anyone think that Trump wouldn't support it. If anything, he would call the IDF a bunch of pussies for not bombing Gaza even harder.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    That's not the point. People aren't saying that they'd rather have Trump in charge. The point is things will never get better if everyone keeps unquestioningly giving their votes to the Democrats regardless of how little the democrats represent their interests. The only real way most people have of making a political party change is by withholding their votes until that party changes in order to regain the votes.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Your options:

    • Genocide overseas & decent domestic policies
    • Genocide overseas & Genocide domestically
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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    American lives > Brown people lives

    Got it.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is not a winnable situation. This is a two party system with a lesser of two evils option.

    But we cannot consistently remain on the edge forever. If we pass over that line. And we have trump next year, it will be our last election.

    We’ll either have a civil war and finally revise the system or end up like Russia.

    Alternatively we can stay on the edge a little longer and build up a different strategy. Maybe A third party that only runs non-president candidates nationwide. Running in off elections and non-presidential yearsto gain seats and national trust. Maybe reforming local laws to make PACS less effective to avoid situations like the current one.

    It’ll be slow and not ideal, but it’s a better chance at improving things then flipping the switch and having the dictatorship now.

    Either way Palestinians die because we don’t get a say in that. And to end off this little rant.

    Biden is enabling the genocide because his PACs have his hands tied. Trump would be cheering on the genocide because his PACS and his base would support him for it.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm sure his PACs are also making him believe those obviously fake stories about Hamas. It's time to admit you're voting for a fascist.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Theres the Fascist who will keep the veil of democracy on and avoid total outright Fascism or the Fascist who will burn democracy to the ground and have outright Fascism.

    Voting for anyone else is at best throwing your vote in the garbage and at worst voting for the greater of two evils.

    This was never an issue of "Voting for the good guy" that hasn't been an option for as long as I have been alive. This is an issue of biding time to build up a strong enough third party, and we don't even have a strong enough third party to have a presence in congress or the senate

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Buying time for what?! The instant Biden got into office you all went back to brunch. All that did was tell the rest of the world "we don't care how much you're suffering, as long as we get to be comfortable we are going to continue to sit on our throne of blood"

    So congratulations, now the world doesn't want to support you this time. Good job on that.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    But there have been active courses of action.

    The Presidency is one person, with increasingly too much power.

    Unions have been exploding in popularity, various local elections have been swinging farther left than the standard democrat playbook.

    The people are not voting democrat because they are content with them, they're voting democrat because there is not another viable option.

    It needs to start local and grow. We need a proper left-wing party, if we can ever get organized enough to do such a thing rather than relying on what already exists.

    And as I said, I think the best course of action is a measured approach. Local Elections, Off-year elections and non-presidential elections. Grow in numbers, gain public confidence and start snowballing.

    The reason why third parties are progressively weakening is because of a lack of faith, and third party's consistent decimation in the presidential is a big part of it.

    Its counter intuitive, but voting third-party hurts third parties in the long run if you focus on them primarily during presidential elections.

    I'm not the standard "Oh the third party will never win type." I'm actively against trying to run before we can walk.

    Confidence is a big deal in elections. It's more obvious in Primaries. If people see a candidate they like in the Primaries, but they don't think they can win against the opposition candidate, they will not vote for the candidate they like. They will vote for the candidate that they have the most confidence in even if they don't like that candidate.

    We need to start a from the ground up political party that's entire focus is to stay out of the view of presidential elections, We need to start focusing on bringing Ranked Choice Voting to as many locations as possible. And it will be a long process. But it's far better than repeatedly doing the same thing every election cycle.

    We always have the situation of 99% evil vs 100% evil both with a roughly 50/50 chance of winning and a selection of third party candidates who are decent but have 0 chance of winning.

    Third party candidate loses, 99% or 100% evil wins. Third Party yet again becomes less relevant and less considered. Repeat. This cycle can only end if we stop focusing on the obvious losing strategy.

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