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[–] 58 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Come on, don't be disingenuous, you need more than a bus ticket if you don't live close to the border of a state that allows abortions.

Your whole trip will most likely take three days or more (getting there, getting the procedure, coming back), so you need at least two days in a hotel/Airbnb. You will have to get off work for those days as well, that is cost as well.

That could be around 300$ together if you don't have any vacation/sick days, on top of the cost of the procedure itself. And it's not like you can save up that money over several weeks/months either, when you need an abortion every day counts. Contrary to some media, those affected don't want to wait until the last possible day.

Some people really only have money for the bare necessities. And they are the ones who really should have access to an abortion because a baby wouldn't improve their situation in the slightest.

Being poor isn't a choice in most cases. Learned helplessness might play a role, but telling them "just get a bus ticket, lul" won't change that.

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  • [+] -82 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    Ain't a "might" about learned helplessness. The amount of rationalization in this day and age about people failing so hard of their own accord that they don't have 300 bucks is fucking pathetic. Like just fucking do something, anything, except continue doing the same thing. Sell some fucking drugs, why not, quick financial.boost and go.

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  • [+] -12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I've never defined my morality by what the government says, is why I suggested to something, that something not being theft though.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It doesn't matter if it's moral, it's dangerous. Cash business in a significant volume, that you can't insure or make meaningful contracts for.

    Your suggestion of doing high risk things to make money is the same as a suggestion to gamble to get money.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You fucking people are so risk adverse, it's no wonder you'd rather be slaves to the state rather than try

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Pragmatism is slavery... I'm gonna think on that

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  • [+] -26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Actually I agree, it’s far easier to simply let things continue the way they are than to take a leap of faith.

    My dad had been talking about leaving the country since we were kids, he just said he wanted to wait for us to go off to college first. But nobody really believed him - he was an underpaid college professor with little to no life savings.

    But when Covid hit he sold his house, sold his car, and grabbed a one way ticket to Ecuador. He went down without ever having been, not knowing where he’d end up living, and is now 2 years later living his best life. I visited him and it’s heaven, I’m honestly jealous.

    Edit: For those of you downvoting, his “house” was a shitty condo in Jersey and his car was an old nearly broken Honda Fit. He didn’t get much from either.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Hey, if you're poor, just sell your house and your car, that you have when you poor. Everyone has at least couple of houses to sell, right?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    OK maybe not everybody but you can always wait for your inheritance, right?

    Edit: do I really need to add /s? Or why the downvotes?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    My dad is more poor than I am, he just signed a 20 year mortgage at 70 and he is much closer to his 5 step kids. I am getting nothing. What next?

    Edit: He at least was able to get a mortgage so maybe "more poor than I am" isn't true.

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