▲ 516 ▼ Why is the US still sending an endless supply of arms to Israel without conditions? (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by GutsBerserk@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 150 comments fedilink hide all child comments The law ( the Leahy Law) requires that the US vet any foreign military receiving US arms. However, that doesn’t happen with Israel
[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) US taxpayers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago* (2 children) ...they already have that money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a convenient way to transfer money to arms dealers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They already have that money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you work that out? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago He's just a sad troll. I recommend blocking him. Everything I see him say is ridiculous and out of touch with reality. permalink fedilink source parent [+] SCB@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Military aid is money already apportioned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's discretionary spending in the defense budget https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-does-the-us-give-other-countries-in-military-aid/#footnote-1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No. Senate Republicans block funding bill that included aid for Ukraine and Israel But even still, you're just quoting a longstanding mechanism for the transfer of public money to private hands. What do you think that money is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago I don't know what your link is supposed to be referencing. Do you not understand what discretionary spending is? permalink fedilink source parent [–] chitak166@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What are you talking about? There aren't even enough munitions for Ukraine. Anything we give away is something we could have sold to at least attempt to recoup American taxpayer investment. I'm not sure why you people keep peddling the narrative that millions, or even billions of dollars in military equipment is worthless. Sorry, that's a lie. It's because you don't understand what's happening in the world around you. Your comments are testaments to that fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There aren’t even enough munitions for Ukraine. I assure you the US can produce enough weapons to kill every man, woman, and child on this planet many times over. I’m not sure why you people keep peddling the narrative that millions, or even billions of dollars in military equipment is worthless. I don't think it's worthless. I think it's a good use of resources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I assure you the US can produce enough weapons Who pays for the added production? It's like you're arguing the US has more than enough with weapons it was going to replace anyways, then when that's not actually enough you're trying to make it seem like production is free, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* I'm not understanding - is it your view that we cannot supply weapons because production is too costly? Because that's silly. The ROI is absurd here. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SCB@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago* (2 children) ...they already have that money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a convenient way to transfer money to arms dealers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They already have that money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you work that out? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago He's just a sad troll. I recommend blocking him. Everything I see him say is ridiculous and out of touch with reality. permalink fedilink source parent [+] SCB@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Military aid is money already apportioned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's discretionary spending in the defense budget https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-does-the-us-give-other-countries-in-military-aid/#footnote-1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No. Senate Republicans block funding bill that included aid for Ukraine and Israel But even still, you're just quoting a longstanding mechanism for the transfer of public money to private hands. What do you think that money is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago I don't know what your link is supposed to be referencing. Do you not understand what discretionary spending is? permalink fedilink source parent [–] chitak166@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What are you talking about? There aren't even enough munitions for Ukraine. Anything we give away is something we could have sold to at least attempt to recoup American taxpayer investment. I'm not sure why you people keep peddling the narrative that millions, or even billions of dollars in military equipment is worthless. Sorry, that's a lie. It's because you don't understand what's happening in the world around you. Your comments are testaments to that fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There aren’t even enough munitions for Ukraine. I assure you the US can produce enough weapons to kill every man, woman, and child on this planet many times over. I’m not sure why you people keep peddling the narrative that millions, or even billions of dollars in military equipment is worthless. I don't think it's worthless. I think it's a good use of resources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I assure you the US can produce enough weapons Who pays for the added production? It's like you're arguing the US has more than enough with weapons it was going to replace anyways, then when that's not actually enough you're trying to make it seem like production is free, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* I'm not understanding - is it your view that we cannot supply weapons because production is too costly? Because that's silly. The ROI is absurd here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a convenient way to transfer money to arms dealers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They already have that money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you work that out? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago He's just a sad troll. I recommend blocking him. Everything I see him say is ridiculous and out of touch with reality. permalink fedilink source parent [+] SCB@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Military aid is money already apportioned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's discretionary spending in the defense budget https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-does-the-us-give-other-countries-in-military-aid/#footnote-1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No. Senate Republicans block funding bill that included aid for Ukraine and Israel But even still, you're just quoting a longstanding mechanism for the transfer of public money to private hands. What do you think that money is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago I don't know what your link is supposed to be referencing. Do you not understand what discretionary spending is? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SCB@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They already have that money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you work that out? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago He's just a sad troll. I recommend blocking him. Everything I see him say is ridiculous and out of touch with reality. permalink fedilink source parent [+] SCB@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Military aid is money already apportioned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's discretionary spending in the defense budget https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-does-the-us-give-other-countries-in-military-aid/#footnote-1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No. Senate Republicans block funding bill that included aid for Ukraine and Israel But even still, you're just quoting a longstanding mechanism for the transfer of public money to private hands. What do you think that money is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago I don't know what your link is supposed to be referencing. Do you not understand what discretionary spending is? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) How do you work that out? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago He's just a sad troll. I recommend blocking him. Everything I see him say is ridiculous and out of touch with reality. permalink fedilink source parent [+] SCB@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Military aid is money already apportioned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's discretionary spending in the defense budget https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-does-the-us-give-other-countries-in-military-aid/#footnote-1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No. Senate Republicans block funding bill that included aid for Ukraine and Israel But even still, you're just quoting a longstanding mechanism for the transfer of public money to private hands. What do you think that money is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago I don't know what your link is supposed to be referencing. Do you not understand what discretionary spending is? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago He's just a sad troll. I recommend blocking him. Everything I see him say is ridiculous and out of touch with reality. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SCB@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Military aid is money already apportioned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's discretionary spending in the defense budget https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-does-the-us-give-other-countries-in-military-aid/#footnote-1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No. Senate Republicans block funding bill that included aid for Ukraine and Israel But even still, you're just quoting a longstanding mechanism for the transfer of public money to private hands. What do you think that money is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago I don't know what your link is supposed to be referencing. Do you not understand what discretionary spending is? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's discretionary spending in the defense budget https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-does-the-us-give-other-countries-in-military-aid/#footnote-1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No. Senate Republicans block funding bill that included aid for Ukraine and Israel But even still, you're just quoting a longstanding mechanism for the transfer of public money to private hands. What do you think that money is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago I don't know what your link is supposed to be referencing. Do you not understand what discretionary spending is? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's discretionary spending in the defense budget https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-does-the-us-give-other-countries-in-military-aid/#footnote-1 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoBo@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No. Senate Republicans block funding bill that included aid for Ukraine and Israel But even still, you're just quoting a longstanding mechanism for the transfer of public money to private hands. What do you think that money is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago I don't know what your link is supposed to be referencing. Do you not understand what discretionary spending is? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No. Senate Republicans block funding bill that included aid for Ukraine and Israel But even still, you're just quoting a longstanding mechanism for the transfer of public money to private hands. What do you think that money is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago I don't know what your link is supposed to be referencing. Do you not understand what discretionary spending is? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago I don't know what your link is supposed to be referencing. Do you not understand what discretionary spending is? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child) What are you talking about? There aren't even enough munitions for Ukraine. Anything we give away is something we could have sold to at least attempt to recoup American taxpayer investment. I'm not sure why you people keep peddling the narrative that millions, or even billions of dollars in military equipment is worthless. Sorry, that's a lie. It's because you don't understand what's happening in the world around you. Your comments are testaments to that fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There aren’t even enough munitions for Ukraine. I assure you the US can produce enough weapons to kill every man, woman, and child on this planet many times over. I’m not sure why you people keep peddling the narrative that millions, or even billions of dollars in military equipment is worthless. I don't think it's worthless. I think it's a good use of resources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I assure you the US can produce enough weapons Who pays for the added production? It's like you're arguing the US has more than enough with weapons it was going to replace anyways, then when that's not actually enough you're trying to make it seem like production is free, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* I'm not understanding - is it your view that we cannot supply weapons because production is too costly? Because that's silly. The ROI is absurd here. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There aren’t even enough munitions for Ukraine. I assure you the US can produce enough weapons to kill every man, woman, and child on this planet many times over. I’m not sure why you people keep peddling the narrative that millions, or even billions of dollars in military equipment is worthless. I don't think it's worthless. I think it's a good use of resources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I assure you the US can produce enough weapons Who pays for the added production? It's like you're arguing the US has more than enough with weapons it was going to replace anyways, then when that's not actually enough you're trying to make it seem like production is free, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* I'm not understanding - is it your view that we cannot supply weapons because production is too costly? Because that's silly. The ROI is absurd here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I assure you the US can produce enough weapons Who pays for the added production? It's like you're arguing the US has more than enough with weapons it was going to replace anyways, then when that's not actually enough you're trying to make it seem like production is free, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* I'm not understanding - is it your view that we cannot supply weapons because production is too costly? Because that's silly. The ROI is absurd here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* I'm not understanding - is it your view that we cannot supply weapons because production is too costly? Because that's silly. The ROI is absurd here. permalink fedilink source parent