▲ 516 ▼ Why is the US still sending an endless supply of arms to Israel without conditions? (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by GutsBerserk@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 150 comments fedilink hide all child comments The law ( the Leahy Law) requires that the US vet any foreign military receiving US arms. However, that doesn’t happen with Israel
[+] SCB@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) fucking oppressed palestinian people, how dare they resist genocide, right? There is no genocide of Palestinians. Less than 1% of Palestinians have been killed in this conflict permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: a. Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; b. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; c. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; d. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. I’m not totally convinced that this is Israel’s intent—most of what I’ve seen points to a brazen and sociopathic indifference typical of 7th graders and goofy “strongman” populists like Netanyahu alike—but the percentage of the population killed does not factor in determining whether it is genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) They've killed 0.6% of the population, counting enemy militants. Gaza is 5x the density of Mosul, in which the US (who quite obviously was not committing genocide) killed ~10,000 civilians. Things can be shitty and not be genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Again, I really don’t to weigh in on whether or not it is genocide, if only because I’m not gonna change anybody’s opinion here. Alls I’m saying is that the qualifications for genocide do not include the destruction of the entire, or even the majority of, the population. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Any sane look at the situation makes it obvious it is not genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And I’m still not trying to argue with you on that. I’m just saying that the numbers you’re citing do not support your case. There are most definitely situations where killing 0.6% of a population would be considered genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe, if they fit any of the other criteria, which Israel obviously does not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Please point to where I said anything explicitly disagreeing with that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* Raz Segal is an associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University and the endowed professor in the study of modern genocide. TIL A Jewish professor of Holocaust and genocide studies is insane. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: a. Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; b. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; c. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; d. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. I’m not totally convinced that this is Israel’s intent—most of what I’ve seen points to a brazen and sociopathic indifference typical of 7th graders and goofy “strongman” populists like Netanyahu alike—but the percentage of the population killed does not factor in determining whether it is genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) They've killed 0.6% of the population, counting enemy militants. Gaza is 5x the density of Mosul, in which the US (who quite obviously was not committing genocide) killed ~10,000 civilians. Things can be shitty and not be genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Again, I really don’t to weigh in on whether or not it is genocide, if only because I’m not gonna change anybody’s opinion here. Alls I’m saying is that the qualifications for genocide do not include the destruction of the entire, or even the majority of, the population. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Any sane look at the situation makes it obvious it is not genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And I’m still not trying to argue with you on that. I’m just saying that the numbers you’re citing do not support your case. There are most definitely situations where killing 0.6% of a population would be considered genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe, if they fit any of the other criteria, which Israel obviously does not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Please point to where I said anything explicitly disagreeing with that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* Raz Segal is an associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University and the endowed professor in the study of modern genocide. TIL A Jewish professor of Holocaust and genocide studies is insane. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) They've killed 0.6% of the population, counting enemy militants. Gaza is 5x the density of Mosul, in which the US (who quite obviously was not committing genocide) killed ~10,000 civilians. Things can be shitty and not be genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Again, I really don’t to weigh in on whether or not it is genocide, if only because I’m not gonna change anybody’s opinion here. Alls I’m saying is that the qualifications for genocide do not include the destruction of the entire, or even the majority of, the population. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Any sane look at the situation makes it obvious it is not genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And I’m still not trying to argue with you on that. I’m just saying that the numbers you’re citing do not support your case. There are most definitely situations where killing 0.6% of a population would be considered genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe, if they fit any of the other criteria, which Israel obviously does not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Please point to where I said anything explicitly disagreeing with that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* Raz Segal is an associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University and the endowed professor in the study of modern genocide. TIL A Jewish professor of Holocaust and genocide studies is insane. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Again, I really don’t to weigh in on whether or not it is genocide, if only because I’m not gonna change anybody’s opinion here. Alls I’m saying is that the qualifications for genocide do not include the destruction of the entire, or even the majority of, the population. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Any sane look at the situation makes it obvious it is not genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And I’m still not trying to argue with you on that. I’m just saying that the numbers you’re citing do not support your case. There are most definitely situations where killing 0.6% of a population would be considered genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe, if they fit any of the other criteria, which Israel obviously does not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Please point to where I said anything explicitly disagreeing with that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* Raz Segal is an associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University and the endowed professor in the study of modern genocide. TIL A Jewish professor of Holocaust and genocide studies is insane. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SCB@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Any sane look at the situation makes it obvious it is not genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And I’m still not trying to argue with you on that. I’m just saying that the numbers you’re citing do not support your case. There are most definitely situations where killing 0.6% of a population would be considered genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe, if they fit any of the other criteria, which Israel obviously does not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Please point to where I said anything explicitly disagreeing with that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* Raz Segal is an associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University and the endowed professor in the study of modern genocide. TIL A Jewish professor of Holocaust and genocide studies is insane. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And I’m still not trying to argue with you on that. I’m just saying that the numbers you’re citing do not support your case. There are most definitely situations where killing 0.6% of a population would be considered genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe, if they fit any of the other criteria, which Israel obviously does not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Please point to where I said anything explicitly disagreeing with that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe, if they fit any of the other criteria, which Israel obviously does not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Please point to where I said anything explicitly disagreeing with that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Please point to where I said anything explicitly disagreeing with that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* Raz Segal is an associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University and the endowed professor in the study of modern genocide. TIL A Jewish professor of Holocaust and genocide studies is insane. permalink fedilink source parent