▲ 1057 ▼ New Legislation Proposes to Take Wall Street Out of the Housing Market (www.nytimes.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 171 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 149 points 2 years ago (29 children) This will pass at the same time as the healthcare, world peace, and word hunger bills. permalink fedilink source hideshow 32 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (3 children) From the article: With a divided Congress, the bills are unlikely to pass into law this session. But Mr. Smith said legislators needed to start a conversation. Solid odds this will be a campaign issue, which is a great thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) It will be a campaign issue and then nothing will be done about it. Fingers will be pointed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) This 1000%. A bunch of bullshit from all sides, all these "ought to's" and a bunch of malarkey will get tossed around. The election will get won by Biden or Trump, and all this will just turn into the same thing it always does.....empty promises and a shit ton of money getting made at the top while we're all fucked. Real change won't happen by voting for it, it's when billionaires find their heads in baskets staring up at the axe/guillotine/whatever that just cut their fucking heads off. Eat the rich. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blademaster00@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The "Guillotine the rich" crowd sure loves saying they wanna do it but they never have the balls. You talk of politician "ought to's" yet here you and many others are not executing billionaires. Put up or shut up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I said, and I'll copy and paste: Real change won’t happen by voting for it, it’s when billionaires find their heads in baskets staring up at the axe/guillotine/whatever that just cut their fucking heads off. Eat the rich. That's a message to show support and willingness. I can't pull it off myself, but if more people are aware and willing, the future is bright. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arbiter@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago Disolving companies resolves problems only if the people who bought the products dont turn immediately to the replacement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] affiliate@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago can’t wait to see conservatives line up in droves to defend wall street buying houses in a few months time permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone will talk about it, nobody will do anything to improve the situation. Once you reach the ranks of the Senate, you have more financial interest in the future of your REIT-heavy investment portfolio than the price any of your constituents are paying for housing. Hell, more than a few Senators come straight from the halls of Wall Street themselves. That's how they have the kind of surplus cash to run for office to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or they could all be vampires, if we're just making shit up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even vampires don't suck this hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I agree your comment here was just bad lol Like, volunteer on any campaign whatsoever and see how wrong it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago I've seen the inside of the Beto O'Rourke campaign three times over and it got worse every time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) don't forget gun regulation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gun regs have better odds, as high real estate prices don't put Congresscritters in the hospital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) In fact, we've already passed more regulations recently in the form of Safer Communities Act, as well as reimplementing the Obama Era mental health screening that was removed under the Trump Admin. Sure, it's not a renewal of the Assault Rifle Ban, but it's something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago A great deal of the Safer Communities Act is simply sending more money to municipal and state police budgets. Given the sway these organizations have in electing state and local leaders, its certainly something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) Liberals: "We're teetering on the brink of tyranny, democracy may cease to exist after 2024." Also liberals: "Please remove our 2A rights while fascists in red states expand their own." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] teuast@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "remove our 2A rights" is a weird way to phrase "regulating gun availability to make it harder for people who intend to use them to kill people to get them." you know the text of the second amendment includes the phrase "well-regulated," almost as if they did not intend for gun availability to be the lawless wasteland that it currently effectively is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I'm sure that if federal legislation is passed all these fascist militias made up of racists, theofascists, and law enforcement officers will all willingly give up their firearms and comply with the law 🤡. I get it, it's not ideal, but that ship has sailed. Additional gun regulations only pass in blue states, and only further weaken our defensive posture. If you truly believe trump and his retarded followers represent an existential threat to democracy in the US (as I do) I cannot understand why you wouldn't understand the necessity for access to normal capacity magazines and non-nerfed firearms, unless maybe you think Jon Stewart is gonna come rescue you with a witty quip when some fascist has you on your knees in front of a ditch. You should start believing conservatives when they tell you what kind of America they want to live in and what they're willing to do to get there, cause although they're fucking morons, they're also dead fucking serious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your rifle isn't going to protect you. Did guns stop the war on drugs? Did guns stop the Patriot act? Did guns stop the Japanese interment camps? Did guns stop Jim Crow? Did guns save the Natives? Did guns stop the anti-black city riots? Did guns end the robber barrons or the city bosses? Did it stop the attacks on Asians in San Francisco and New York last century or even two years ago? Your gun means jack and shit. The biggest proof of that is you are not in front of a planned parenthood in Texas ready to battle with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did guns stop the Japanese interment camps? Fun fact, my great grandfather, an immigrant from Mexico, worked on a large Japanese farm during WW2 as a foreman. When fearful citizens came for the Japanese my great grandfather took ownership of the property and kept it running during their detention. Upon their return he relinquished ownership, having kept everything in order all while continuing to pay himself the same wage. The biggest proof of that is you are not in front of a planned parenthood in Texas ready to battle with it. I've taken and thrown punches for my fellow POC and the queer community, I've been arrested in protest, and have stood in solidarity when members of my community have required defending. I've been shamed for my culture and where I come from, looked down and spit up on for being less than - and I can still hold my head up high and stand with dignity exactly because I've always chosen to 'battle with it'. You might consider this interaction the next time you accuse someone of inaction just because their experience and principles differ from your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I won't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Facebones@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago "HuRrDuRr LiBrUlZ" Find a second brain cell. JFC. permalink fedilink source parent [+] spider@lemmy.nz 1 point 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (26 replies)
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (3 children) From the article: With a divided Congress, the bills are unlikely to pass into law this session. But Mr. Smith said legislators needed to start a conversation. Solid odds this will be a campaign issue, which is a great thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) It will be a campaign issue and then nothing will be done about it. Fingers will be pointed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) This 1000%. A bunch of bullshit from all sides, all these "ought to's" and a bunch of malarkey will get tossed around. The election will get won by Biden or Trump, and all this will just turn into the same thing it always does.....empty promises and a shit ton of money getting made at the top while we're all fucked. Real change won't happen by voting for it, it's when billionaires find their heads in baskets staring up at the axe/guillotine/whatever that just cut their fucking heads off. Eat the rich. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blademaster00@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The "Guillotine the rich" crowd sure loves saying they wanna do it but they never have the balls. You talk of politician "ought to's" yet here you and many others are not executing billionaires. Put up or shut up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I said, and I'll copy and paste: Real change won’t happen by voting for it, it’s when billionaires find their heads in baskets staring up at the axe/guillotine/whatever that just cut their fucking heads off. Eat the rich. That's a message to show support and willingness. I can't pull it off myself, but if more people are aware and willing, the future is bright. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arbiter@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago Disolving companies resolves problems only if the people who bought the products dont turn immediately to the replacement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] affiliate@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago can’t wait to see conservatives line up in droves to defend wall street buying houses in a few months time permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone will talk about it, nobody will do anything to improve the situation. Once you reach the ranks of the Senate, you have more financial interest in the future of your REIT-heavy investment portfolio than the price any of your constituents are paying for housing. Hell, more than a few Senators come straight from the halls of Wall Street themselves. That's how they have the kind of surplus cash to run for office to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or they could all be vampires, if we're just making shit up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even vampires don't suck this hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I agree your comment here was just bad lol Like, volunteer on any campaign whatsoever and see how wrong it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago I've seen the inside of the Beto O'Rourke campaign three times over and it got worse every time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) It will be a campaign issue and then nothing will be done about it. Fingers will be pointed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) This 1000%. A bunch of bullshit from all sides, all these "ought to's" and a bunch of malarkey will get tossed around. The election will get won by Biden or Trump, and all this will just turn into the same thing it always does.....empty promises and a shit ton of money getting made at the top while we're all fucked. Real change won't happen by voting for it, it's when billionaires find their heads in baskets staring up at the axe/guillotine/whatever that just cut their fucking heads off. Eat the rich. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blademaster00@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The "Guillotine the rich" crowd sure loves saying they wanna do it but they never have the balls. You talk of politician "ought to's" yet here you and many others are not executing billionaires. Put up or shut up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I said, and I'll copy and paste: Real change won’t happen by voting for it, it’s when billionaires find their heads in baskets staring up at the axe/guillotine/whatever that just cut their fucking heads off. Eat the rich. That's a message to show support and willingness. I can't pull it off myself, but if more people are aware and willing, the future is bright. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arbiter@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago Disolving companies resolves problems only if the people who bought the products dont turn immediately to the replacement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) This 1000%. A bunch of bullshit from all sides, all these "ought to's" and a bunch of malarkey will get tossed around. The election will get won by Biden or Trump, and all this will just turn into the same thing it always does.....empty promises and a shit ton of money getting made at the top while we're all fucked. Real change won't happen by voting for it, it's when billionaires find their heads in baskets staring up at the axe/guillotine/whatever that just cut their fucking heads off. Eat the rich. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blademaster00@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The "Guillotine the rich" crowd sure loves saying they wanna do it but they never have the balls. You talk of politician "ought to's" yet here you and many others are not executing billionaires. Put up or shut up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I said, and I'll copy and paste: Real change won’t happen by voting for it, it’s when billionaires find their heads in baskets staring up at the axe/guillotine/whatever that just cut their fucking heads off. Eat the rich. That's a message to show support and willingness. I can't pull it off myself, but if more people are aware and willing, the future is bright. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arbiter@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago Disolving companies resolves problems only if the people who bought the products dont turn immediately to the replacement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blademaster00@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The "Guillotine the rich" crowd sure loves saying they wanna do it but they never have the balls. You talk of politician "ought to's" yet here you and many others are not executing billionaires. Put up or shut up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I said, and I'll copy and paste: Real change won’t happen by voting for it, it’s when billionaires find their heads in baskets staring up at the axe/guillotine/whatever that just cut their fucking heads off. Eat the rich. That's a message to show support and willingness. I can't pull it off myself, but if more people are aware and willing, the future is bright. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I said, and I'll copy and paste: Real change won’t happen by voting for it, it’s when billionaires find their heads in baskets staring up at the axe/guillotine/whatever that just cut their fucking heads off. Eat the rich. That's a message to show support and willingness. I can't pull it off myself, but if more people are aware and willing, the future is bright. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arbiter@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago Disolving companies resolves problems only if the people who bought the products dont turn immediately to the replacement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago can’t wait to see conservatives line up in droves to defend wall street buying houses in a few months time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone will talk about it, nobody will do anything to improve the situation. Once you reach the ranks of the Senate, you have more financial interest in the future of your REIT-heavy investment portfolio than the price any of your constituents are paying for housing. Hell, more than a few Senators come straight from the halls of Wall Street themselves. That's how they have the kind of surplus cash to run for office to begin with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or they could all be vampires, if we're just making shit up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even vampires don't suck this hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I agree your comment here was just bad lol Like, volunteer on any campaign whatsoever and see how wrong it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago I've seen the inside of the Beto O'Rourke campaign three times over and it got worse every time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or they could all be vampires, if we're just making shit up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even vampires don't suck this hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I agree your comment here was just bad lol Like, volunteer on any campaign whatsoever and see how wrong it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago I've seen the inside of the Beto O'Rourke campaign three times over and it got worse every time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even vampires don't suck this hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I agree your comment here was just bad lol Like, volunteer on any campaign whatsoever and see how wrong it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago I've seen the inside of the Beto O'Rourke campaign three times over and it got worse every time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I agree your comment here was just bad lol Like, volunteer on any campaign whatsoever and see how wrong it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago I've seen the inside of the Beto O'Rourke campaign three times over and it got worse every time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago I've seen the inside of the Beto O'Rourke campaign three times over and it got worse every time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) don't forget gun regulation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gun regs have better odds, as high real estate prices don't put Congresscritters in the hospital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) In fact, we've already passed more regulations recently in the form of Safer Communities Act, as well as reimplementing the Obama Era mental health screening that was removed under the Trump Admin. Sure, it's not a renewal of the Assault Rifle Ban, but it's something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago A great deal of the Safer Communities Act is simply sending more money to municipal and state police budgets. Given the sway these organizations have in electing state and local leaders, its certainly something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) Liberals: "We're teetering on the brink of tyranny, democracy may cease to exist after 2024." Also liberals: "Please remove our 2A rights while fascists in red states expand their own." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] teuast@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "remove our 2A rights" is a weird way to phrase "regulating gun availability to make it harder for people who intend to use them to kill people to get them." you know the text of the second amendment includes the phrase "well-regulated," almost as if they did not intend for gun availability to be the lawless wasteland that it currently effectively is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I'm sure that if federal legislation is passed all these fascist militias made up of racists, theofascists, and law enforcement officers will all willingly give up their firearms and comply with the law 🤡. I get it, it's not ideal, but that ship has sailed. Additional gun regulations only pass in blue states, and only further weaken our defensive posture. If you truly believe trump and his retarded followers represent an existential threat to democracy in the US (as I do) I cannot understand why you wouldn't understand the necessity for access to normal capacity magazines and non-nerfed firearms, unless maybe you think Jon Stewart is gonna come rescue you with a witty quip when some fascist has you on your knees in front of a ditch. You should start believing conservatives when they tell you what kind of America they want to live in and what they're willing to do to get there, cause although they're fucking morons, they're also dead fucking serious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your rifle isn't going to protect you. Did guns stop the war on drugs? Did guns stop the Patriot act? Did guns stop the Japanese interment camps? Did guns stop Jim Crow? Did guns save the Natives? Did guns stop the anti-black city riots? Did guns end the robber barrons or the city bosses? Did it stop the attacks on Asians in San Francisco and New York last century or even two years ago? Your gun means jack and shit. The biggest proof of that is you are not in front of a planned parenthood in Texas ready to battle with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did guns stop the Japanese interment camps? Fun fact, my great grandfather, an immigrant from Mexico, worked on a large Japanese farm during WW2 as a foreman. When fearful citizens came for the Japanese my great grandfather took ownership of the property and kept it running during their detention. Upon their return he relinquished ownership, having kept everything in order all while continuing to pay himself the same wage. The biggest proof of that is you are not in front of a planned parenthood in Texas ready to battle with it. I've taken and thrown punches for my fellow POC and the queer community, I've been arrested in protest, and have stood in solidarity when members of my community have required defending. I've been shamed for my culture and where I come from, looked down and spit up on for being less than - and I can still hold my head up high and stand with dignity exactly because I've always chosen to 'battle with it'. You might consider this interaction the next time you accuse someone of inaction just because their experience and principles differ from your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I won't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Facebones@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago "HuRrDuRr LiBrUlZ" Find a second brain cell. JFC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Gun regs have better odds, as high real estate prices don't put Congresscritters in the hospital. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) In fact, we've already passed more regulations recently in the form of Safer Communities Act, as well as reimplementing the Obama Era mental health screening that was removed under the Trump Admin. Sure, it's not a renewal of the Assault Rifle Ban, but it's something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago A great deal of the Safer Communities Act is simply sending more money to municipal and state police budgets. Given the sway these organizations have in electing state and local leaders, its certainly something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) In fact, we've already passed more regulations recently in the form of Safer Communities Act, as well as reimplementing the Obama Era mental health screening that was removed under the Trump Admin. Sure, it's not a renewal of the Assault Rifle Ban, but it's something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago A great deal of the Safer Communities Act is simply sending more money to municipal and state police budgets. Given the sway these organizations have in electing state and local leaders, its certainly something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago A great deal of the Safer Communities Act is simply sending more money to municipal and state police budgets. Given the sway these organizations have in electing state and local leaders, its certainly something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) Liberals: "We're teetering on the brink of tyranny, democracy may cease to exist after 2024." Also liberals: "Please remove our 2A rights while fascists in red states expand their own." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] teuast@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "remove our 2A rights" is a weird way to phrase "regulating gun availability to make it harder for people who intend to use them to kill people to get them." you know the text of the second amendment includes the phrase "well-regulated," almost as if they did not intend for gun availability to be the lawless wasteland that it currently effectively is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I'm sure that if federal legislation is passed all these fascist militias made up of racists, theofascists, and law enforcement officers will all willingly give up their firearms and comply with the law 🤡. I get it, it's not ideal, but that ship has sailed. Additional gun regulations only pass in blue states, and only further weaken our defensive posture. If you truly believe trump and his retarded followers represent an existential threat to democracy in the US (as I do) I cannot understand why you wouldn't understand the necessity for access to normal capacity magazines and non-nerfed firearms, unless maybe you think Jon Stewart is gonna come rescue you with a witty quip when some fascist has you on your knees in front of a ditch. You should start believing conservatives when they tell you what kind of America they want to live in and what they're willing to do to get there, cause although they're fucking morons, they're also dead fucking serious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your rifle isn't going to protect you. Did guns stop the war on drugs? Did guns stop the Patriot act? Did guns stop the Japanese interment camps? Did guns stop Jim Crow? Did guns save the Natives? Did guns stop the anti-black city riots? Did guns end the robber barrons or the city bosses? Did it stop the attacks on Asians in San Francisco and New York last century or even two years ago? Your gun means jack and shit. The biggest proof of that is you are not in front of a planned parenthood in Texas ready to battle with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did guns stop the Japanese interment camps? Fun fact, my great grandfather, an immigrant from Mexico, worked on a large Japanese farm during WW2 as a foreman. When fearful citizens came for the Japanese my great grandfather took ownership of the property and kept it running during their detention. Upon their return he relinquished ownership, having kept everything in order all while continuing to pay himself the same wage. The biggest proof of that is you are not in front of a planned parenthood in Texas ready to battle with it. I've taken and thrown punches for my fellow POC and the queer community, I've been arrested in protest, and have stood in solidarity when members of my community have required defending. I've been shamed for my culture and where I come from, looked down and spit up on for being less than - and I can still hold my head up high and stand with dignity exactly because I've always chosen to 'battle with it'. You might consider this interaction the next time you accuse someone of inaction just because their experience and principles differ from your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I won't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Facebones@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago "HuRrDuRr LiBrUlZ" Find a second brain cell. JFC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teuast@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) "remove our 2A rights" is a weird way to phrase "regulating gun availability to make it harder for people who intend to use them to kill people to get them." you know the text of the second amendment includes the phrase "well-regulated," almost as if they did not intend for gun availability to be the lawless wasteland that it currently effectively is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I'm sure that if federal legislation is passed all these fascist militias made up of racists, theofascists, and law enforcement officers will all willingly give up their firearms and comply with the law 🤡. I get it, it's not ideal, but that ship has sailed. Additional gun regulations only pass in blue states, and only further weaken our defensive posture. If you truly believe trump and his retarded followers represent an existential threat to democracy in the US (as I do) I cannot understand why you wouldn't understand the necessity for access to normal capacity magazines and non-nerfed firearms, unless maybe you think Jon Stewart is gonna come rescue you with a witty quip when some fascist has you on your knees in front of a ditch. You should start believing conservatives when they tell you what kind of America they want to live in and what they're willing to do to get there, cause although they're fucking morons, they're also dead fucking serious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I'm sure that if federal legislation is passed all these fascist militias made up of racists, theofascists, and law enforcement officers will all willingly give up their firearms and comply with the law 🤡. I get it, it's not ideal, but that ship has sailed. Additional gun regulations only pass in blue states, and only further weaken our defensive posture. If you truly believe trump and his retarded followers represent an existential threat to democracy in the US (as I do) I cannot understand why you wouldn't understand the necessity for access to normal capacity magazines and non-nerfed firearms, unless maybe you think Jon Stewart is gonna come rescue you with a witty quip when some fascist has you on your knees in front of a ditch. You should start believing conservatives when they tell you what kind of America they want to live in and what they're willing to do to get there, cause although they're fucking morons, they're also dead fucking serious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your rifle isn't going to protect you. Did guns stop the war on drugs? Did guns stop the Patriot act? Did guns stop the Japanese interment camps? Did guns stop Jim Crow? Did guns save the Natives? Did guns stop the anti-black city riots? Did guns end the robber barrons or the city bosses? Did it stop the attacks on Asians in San Francisco and New York last century or even two years ago? Your gun means jack and shit. The biggest proof of that is you are not in front of a planned parenthood in Texas ready to battle with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did guns stop the Japanese interment camps? Fun fact, my great grandfather, an immigrant from Mexico, worked on a large Japanese farm during WW2 as a foreman. When fearful citizens came for the Japanese my great grandfather took ownership of the property and kept it running during their detention. Upon their return he relinquished ownership, having kept everything in order all while continuing to pay himself the same wage. The biggest proof of that is you are not in front of a planned parenthood in Texas ready to battle with it. I've taken and thrown punches for my fellow POC and the queer community, I've been arrested in protest, and have stood in solidarity when members of my community have required defending. I've been shamed for my culture and where I come from, looked down and spit up on for being less than - and I can still hold my head up high and stand with dignity exactly because I've always chosen to 'battle with it'. You might consider this interaction the next time you accuse someone of inaction just because their experience and principles differ from your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I won't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TunaCowboy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did guns stop the Japanese interment camps? Fun fact, my great grandfather, an immigrant from Mexico, worked on a large Japanese farm during WW2 as a foreman. When fearful citizens came for the Japanese my great grandfather took ownership of the property and kept it running during their detention. Upon their return he relinquished ownership, having kept everything in order all while continuing to pay himself the same wage. The biggest proof of that is you are not in front of a planned parenthood in Texas ready to battle with it. I've taken and thrown punches for my fellow POC and the queer community, I've been arrested in protest, and have stood in solidarity when members of my community have required defending. I've been shamed for my culture and where I come from, looked down and spit up on for being less than - and I can still hold my head up high and stand with dignity exactly because I've always chosen to 'battle with it'. You might consider this interaction the next time you accuse someone of inaction just because their experience and principles differ from your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I won't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Facebones@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago "HuRrDuRr LiBrUlZ" Find a second brain cell. JFC. permalink fedilink source parent