▲ 183 ▼ Ukraine could lose the war if the U.S. delays military aid, top Ukrainian official says (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/news@lemmy.world 48 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) What does Ukraine "losing" mean to you at this point of the war? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kGdMKhy8Wa5s@programming.dev -25 points 2 years ago (3 children) What does Ukraine "winning" mean to you at this point in the war? When you're targeted by a much larger nation state that has every tactical advantage against you, you're going to lose. Look at every nation the United States has invaded over the last 60 years. Would you say any of them won? When hundreds of thousands of your people die violent deaths, it's hard to declare victory. Even if you remain independent, you lose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago I would say that the US didn't win in Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan. Everyone loses in all these cases except the nations on the sidelines. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago So you would say the USSR won in Afghanistan? permalink fedilink source parent [+] eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kGdMKhy8Wa5s@programming.dev -25 points 2 years ago (3 children) What does Ukraine "winning" mean to you at this point in the war? When you're targeted by a much larger nation state that has every tactical advantage against you, you're going to lose. Look at every nation the United States has invaded over the last 60 years. Would you say any of them won? When hundreds of thousands of your people die violent deaths, it's hard to declare victory. Even if you remain independent, you lose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago I would say that the US didn't win in Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan. Everyone loses in all these cases except the nations on the sidelines. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago So you would say the USSR won in Afghanistan? permalink fedilink source parent [+] eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago I would say that the US didn't win in Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan. Everyone loses in all these cases except the nations on the sidelines. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago So you would say the USSR won in Afghanistan? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent