▲ 1928 ▼ Always remember, both sides are just as bad! (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by PugJesus@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 404 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) Ironically, despite the common saying, the trains were apparently even worse during the Nazi government than they were before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) They more or less tried to rebuild every part of the society the way a butthurt drunk corporal would consider best. Ah, and their economic successes were in large part result of a few Ponzi schemes and just theft. That "restoration of economy" of theirs wasn't sustainable, because nobody would give them any more money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering they were led by a failed art critic who basically stayed a butthurt drunk corporal after WW1 ended, it checks out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago They were led by a group of people, some very much noblemen and officers, and some well-educated and competent people. The criterion for success was being defined by the corporal, because in some sense German conservatives of the Weimar republic times turned pessimist of their nobility, their upper and middle class, and, a bit like Russian narodniks would look for rebirth in the way Russian peasants lived (knowing nothing of that), they were looking for rebirth in the propaganda picture of some patriotic and depressed corporal, and they've found one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's amazing what a boost your economy can get when you steal the property of millions of people after shipping them off to concentration camps. It's probably the Republican plan to end the national debt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago I'm not sure, but I think I've read that various fraudulent schemes built on the German state's remaining credibility made a bigger input. Murder of sick people, sterilization of gays, concentration camps, robbery and murder of minorities and whoever else - it was all not as much for practical gain as it was for making robbery and murder normalized in their society. Nazis were really philosophy-driven. Their state was an attempt at deconstructing (can't find another word) morality, "return" to a picture of some barbaric tribe living off conquest. Where the "weak" would perish and the "strong" would drive evolution. Eroding culture and morality was their intention, as a means to turn Germany into some tribe which will conquer many parts of the world and change it forever. They were very appreciative not only of their ancestors in late Antiquity, but also of Mongol, Turkic invaders in history. That doesn't quite work the same way as a corporal would imagine, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Almost like they kicked significant parts of the railway work force out and sent them to death camps in the name of opening those jobs up for mediocre "ubermensch" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Confuzzeled@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I would imagine the people on the trains back then were in no hurry to reach the destination. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) They more or less tried to rebuild every part of the society the way a butthurt drunk corporal would consider best. Ah, and their economic successes were in large part result of a few Ponzi schemes and just theft. That "restoration of economy" of theirs wasn't sustainable, because nobody would give them any more money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering they were led by a failed art critic who basically stayed a butthurt drunk corporal after WW1 ended, it checks out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago They were led by a group of people, some very much noblemen and officers, and some well-educated and competent people. The criterion for success was being defined by the corporal, because in some sense German conservatives of the Weimar republic times turned pessimist of their nobility, their upper and middle class, and, a bit like Russian narodniks would look for rebirth in the way Russian peasants lived (knowing nothing of that), they were looking for rebirth in the propaganda picture of some patriotic and depressed corporal, and they've found one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's amazing what a boost your economy can get when you steal the property of millions of people after shipping them off to concentration camps. It's probably the Republican plan to end the national debt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago I'm not sure, but I think I've read that various fraudulent schemes built on the German state's remaining credibility made a bigger input. Murder of sick people, sterilization of gays, concentration camps, robbery and murder of minorities and whoever else - it was all not as much for practical gain as it was for making robbery and murder normalized in their society. Nazis were really philosophy-driven. Their state was an attempt at deconstructing (can't find another word) morality, "return" to a picture of some barbaric tribe living off conquest. Where the "weak" would perish and the "strong" would drive evolution. Eroding culture and morality was their intention, as a means to turn Germany into some tribe which will conquer many parts of the world and change it forever. They were very appreciative not only of their ancestors in late Antiquity, but also of Mongol, Turkic invaders in history. That doesn't quite work the same way as a corporal would imagine, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering they were led by a failed art critic who basically stayed a butthurt drunk corporal after WW1 ended, it checks out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago They were led by a group of people, some very much noblemen and officers, and some well-educated and competent people. The criterion for success was being defined by the corporal, because in some sense German conservatives of the Weimar republic times turned pessimist of their nobility, their upper and middle class, and, a bit like Russian narodniks would look for rebirth in the way Russian peasants lived (knowing nothing of that), they were looking for rebirth in the propaganda picture of some patriotic and depressed corporal, and they've found one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago They were led by a group of people, some very much noblemen and officers, and some well-educated and competent people. The criterion for success was being defined by the corporal, because in some sense German conservatives of the Weimar republic times turned pessimist of their nobility, their upper and middle class, and, a bit like Russian narodniks would look for rebirth in the way Russian peasants lived (knowing nothing of that), they were looking for rebirth in the propaganda picture of some patriotic and depressed corporal, and they've found one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's amazing what a boost your economy can get when you steal the property of millions of people after shipping them off to concentration camps. It's probably the Republican plan to end the national debt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago I'm not sure, but I think I've read that various fraudulent schemes built on the German state's remaining credibility made a bigger input. Murder of sick people, sterilization of gays, concentration camps, robbery and murder of minorities and whoever else - it was all not as much for practical gain as it was for making robbery and murder normalized in their society. Nazis were really philosophy-driven. Their state was an attempt at deconstructing (can't find another word) morality, "return" to a picture of some barbaric tribe living off conquest. Where the "weak" would perish and the "strong" would drive evolution. Eroding culture and morality was their intention, as a means to turn Germany into some tribe which will conquer many parts of the world and change it forever. They were very appreciative not only of their ancestors in late Antiquity, but also of Mongol, Turkic invaders in history. That doesn't quite work the same way as a corporal would imagine, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago I'm not sure, but I think I've read that various fraudulent schemes built on the German state's remaining credibility made a bigger input. Murder of sick people, sterilization of gays, concentration camps, robbery and murder of minorities and whoever else - it was all not as much for practical gain as it was for making robbery and murder normalized in their society. Nazis were really philosophy-driven. Their state was an attempt at deconstructing (can't find another word) morality, "return" to a picture of some barbaric tribe living off conquest. Where the "weak" would perish and the "strong" would drive evolution. Eroding culture and morality was their intention, as a means to turn Germany into some tribe which will conquer many parts of the world and change it forever. They were very appreciative not only of their ancestors in late Antiquity, but also of Mongol, Turkic invaders in history. That doesn't quite work the same way as a corporal would imagine, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Almost like they kicked significant parts of the railway work force out and sent them to death camps in the name of opening those jobs up for mediocre "ubermensch" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Confuzzeled@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I would imagine the people on the trains back then were in no hurry to reach the destination. permalink fedilink source parent