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Lemmy World is down once again. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 years ago by favrion@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

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[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 39 points 3 years ago (7 children)

Move to a new, smaller, instance. You can still use lemmy.world as though it was still running at full speed. You can still post to lemmy.world or other federated communities and you experience won’t be so painful.

Lemmy.world is experiencing an influx of Redditors and with us good Redditors come our awful trolls. Growth, along with DDoS attacks have plagued the site since I began using it.

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[–] CMahaff@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 years ago (1 child)

And if the thought of setting up another account annoys you, I've made a tool that will migrate your account settings, subscriptions, and blocks: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

Now that does require the source instance to be up long enough to download your profile, but after that you can upload to any instance you want and be running like nothing changed in like 2 minutes.

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[–] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Thanks for the beautiful tool!

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[–] AzuleBlade@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago

Agreed, and starred.

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[–] niisyth@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Tbh, I kinda like that we have these growing pains. Helps folks leave out older expectations of monolithic profit-oriented social platforms. And actually put some money down to help host the specific niche community they really want to exist.

I'll probably eat these words later but, as of this moment, I stand by it.

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[–] Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Yeah, this is the fediverse's way of telling us to break our old habit of piling on a single site and to spread out.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Except...it's being DDOS'd, so no, it isn't.

If anything this is basically establishing to everyone out there that if you want to kill an instance or encourage people to move to a different one (with different admins who might have different..."styles"), just DDOS it and promote your alternative instance as a refuge.

I'm sticking with .world because the admins there are chill. Don't feel like rolling the dice on a new instance where some power mods probably set up shop.

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[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

You do you, but I wouldn't say that lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, sopuli.xyz or reddthat.col are power mods

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[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago

Particularly sh.itjust.works. They're letting the community vote on instance rules and the Admin is really chill

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

A gaming instance would take a lot of load.

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[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Isn't https://lemmy.zip/ gaming focused?

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

If you can't tell from the name it's not going to work well.

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[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

Blahaj is queer focused, but there is no way you can get that from the name

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

It's a tumblr meme and IKEA reacted to the association by using the shark as a prop in their pro-gay marriage ads in Switzerland. F1nnster has like twenty in a pile in the background as people keep buying them for him.

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[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago

I didn't know blahaj was LGBTQ-related. That's so fucking cool!

I love IKEA.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Yeah. There is little reason to sign up on the biggest server since you can see and interact with content from any of the servers.

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[–] gullible@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago

There’s plenty of reason for a new user, but otherwise agreed. Big instances are training wheels… I say from the biggest kbin instance.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

I wish people would stop using this advice without some caveats. The instance you choose is also about the admins your choosing to have your account under.

I'll stay on Lemmy.world because I trust the admin there. Any time you jump to a new instance, you better hope it's run by levelheaded, fair-minded people.

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[–] remkit@lemmy.kya.moe 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

You don't have to jump to tiny < 100 user instances though, any instance within the top 10 is a good alternative to lemmy.world. If everyone thinks the same as you do, then there would be no point in federation.

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Any instance in the top 10 is not a “newer smaller instance.”

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[–] remkit@lemmy.kya.moe 4 points 3 years ago

Y'know what, you're right, but in an ideal federated world, it is probably for the best if people branch out further than just the top 10 as well. The instance I'm on probably is not even within the top 50, but it's fast, performant, and has all my subscriptions. Not sure about the admins, but I also have alts on lemm.ee and sh.itjust.works in case this instance goes bust.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

along with DDoS attacks

Is lemmy.world getting DDoSed? Who would profit from that? (honest question. I hadn't read this before.)

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[–] velxundussa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 years ago

DDoS are sometimes just people thinking "because I can", not necessarily motivated by profit.

A smallish scale service like a lemmy server ran by volunteers seems like an easy target, so it wouldn't be surprising that being the case.

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[–] favrion@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

I am subscribed to nine others.

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[–] Mookulator@wirebase.org 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

Have you figured out an efficient way to mirror your community subscription list between them?

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[–] Gamera8ID@kaijus.us 5 points 3 years ago

https://github.com/Ac5000/lemmy_account_sync

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[+] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

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[–] RoundSparrow@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

It’s mostly DDOS attacks though, not the influx of normal users.

Really? As site_aggregates table getting 1500 rows updated on every single new comment and post local insert is just the tip of the iceberg of how nobody has scrutinized the PostgreSQL performance. Thank you to lemmy.ca last weekend for looking at AUTO_EXPLAIN on their data.

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[–] astral_avocado@programming.dev 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

As site_aggregates table getting 1500 rows updated on every single new comment

Is this accurate?

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[–] RoundSparrow@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Do you know who runs lemmy.ca, accurate? https://lemmy.ml/post/2502514

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[–] astral_avocado@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

Huh? I'm not an instance operator (yet). I was actually asking you a question, does this actually happen? Have you seen this on your own instance?

Was hoping to get some discussion going on this.

Edit: do you have any example logs from your postgres instance demonstrating this?

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[–] RoundSparrow@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago

do you have any example logs from your postgres instance demonstrating this?

I've exposed raw data from my PostgreSQL tables. And every single new comment and post you could see +1 going on every known server. I haven't updated to 0.18.3 yet, so it's still there: https://lemmyadmin.bulletintree.com/query/raw_site_aggregates?output=table

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