▲ 436 ▼ Taliban Militants Fed Up With Office Culture, Ready to Quiet Quit (time.com) submitted 2 years ago by Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world 81 comments fedilink hide all child comments Time magazine: "we don't know how yet, but we're gonna find a way to link the rise of fascism and avocado toast"
[–] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) I hope the afghan people raise up against their oppressors and fight back. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ZaroniPepperoni@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) The largest military in the world occupied their country and gave them billions in equipment to keep it and they let the taliban retake everything in weeks. I don't think there is going to be any better opportunity then that. It's obvious that the fighting population already made their choice, and now everyone just has to enjoy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course there’s a better opportunity: figuring it out for themselves. Having some rich stranger give you a bunch of stuff is a recipe for failure. Building what you have slowly and steadily is a recipe for success. Hopefully we can stay out of their way and stop trying to give them level 50 gear when they’ve level 1 noobs. Best way to guarantee someone stays a noob is to remove them their game and try to place them into your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZaroniPepperoni@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I sure hope your right, but we did not just give them stuff and tell them to figure it out, we trained them for 20 years, with the most experienced soldiers in the world. It's obviously a motivation and culture issue, so maybe after they realize how shit things have gone they may make a change, but I am not holding my breath. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago The US invasion of Afghanistan basically paused Afghani political progress for 20 years, because they were too busy fighting a foreign invader. Doesn't help that the US-backed government was famously corrupt. Change in the Afghani political sphere was always going to start after, not before, the US pulled out of Afghanistan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago We gave them that training. They didn't earn it. They didn't seek it, nothing. And because it wasn't something that they earned, they squandered it. We're enabling them. We're not doing the most helpful thing by giving them all this hardware and training. The most helpful thing would be sending them a bunch of LSD microdose pills. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world [S] -2 points 2 years ago Sure, blame the Afghan civilians after bombing their country back to the stone age and then trying to occupy it for 20 years with said largest military in the world only to pull THAT rug out from under them with a sudden bungled withdrawal. It's not like the West had anything to do with the Taliban taking power in the first place, right? Right? permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) They did, they wanted this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s like saying that we wanted Trump. He didn’t win the popular vote; we didn’t want him but he was there anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What an absurd comparison. Regardless, I didn't see liberals speaking with their actions and fighting a guerilla war for twenty years against the US Army. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'll rephrase what you said: I don't like that you pointed out something inconvenient so I will dismiss it and redirect the conversation elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 2 years ago Wow that's some real clown tier shit lmao. Redirect the conversation to the Taliban having enough popular support to fight an insurgency against a superpower again? You know, what the conversation was before you tried to pretend the electoral college getting a narrow win, working entirely as designed, means a very large percentage of America doesn't support the fascists? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZaroniPepperoni@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) The largest military in the world occupied their country and gave them billions in equipment to keep it and they let the taliban retake everything in weeks. I don't think there is going to be any better opportunity then that. It's obvious that the fighting population already made their choice, and now everyone just has to enjoy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course there’s a better opportunity: figuring it out for themselves. Having some rich stranger give you a bunch of stuff is a recipe for failure. Building what you have slowly and steadily is a recipe for success. Hopefully we can stay out of their way and stop trying to give them level 50 gear when they’ve level 1 noobs. Best way to guarantee someone stays a noob is to remove them their game and try to place them into your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZaroniPepperoni@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I sure hope your right, but we did not just give them stuff and tell them to figure it out, we trained them for 20 years, with the most experienced soldiers in the world. It's obviously a motivation and culture issue, so maybe after they realize how shit things have gone they may make a change, but I am not holding my breath. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago The US invasion of Afghanistan basically paused Afghani political progress for 20 years, because they were too busy fighting a foreign invader. Doesn't help that the US-backed government was famously corrupt. Change in the Afghani political sphere was always going to start after, not before, the US pulled out of Afghanistan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago We gave them that training. They didn't earn it. They didn't seek it, nothing. And because it wasn't something that they earned, they squandered it. We're enabling them. We're not doing the most helpful thing by giving them all this hardware and training. The most helpful thing would be sending them a bunch of LSD microdose pills. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world [S] -2 points 2 years ago Sure, blame the Afghan civilians after bombing their country back to the stone age and then trying to occupy it for 20 years with said largest military in the world only to pull THAT rug out from under them with a sudden bungled withdrawal. It's not like the West had anything to do with the Taliban taking power in the first place, right? Right? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course there’s a better opportunity: figuring it out for themselves. Having some rich stranger give you a bunch of stuff is a recipe for failure. Building what you have slowly and steadily is a recipe for success. Hopefully we can stay out of their way and stop trying to give them level 50 gear when they’ve level 1 noobs. Best way to guarantee someone stays a noob is to remove them their game and try to place them into your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZaroniPepperoni@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I sure hope your right, but we did not just give them stuff and tell them to figure it out, we trained them for 20 years, with the most experienced soldiers in the world. It's obviously a motivation and culture issue, so maybe after they realize how shit things have gone they may make a change, but I am not holding my breath. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago The US invasion of Afghanistan basically paused Afghani political progress for 20 years, because they were too busy fighting a foreign invader. Doesn't help that the US-backed government was famously corrupt. Change in the Afghani political sphere was always going to start after, not before, the US pulled out of Afghanistan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago We gave them that training. They didn't earn it. They didn't seek it, nothing. And because it wasn't something that they earned, they squandered it. We're enabling them. We're not doing the most helpful thing by giving them all this hardware and training. The most helpful thing would be sending them a bunch of LSD microdose pills. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZaroniPepperoni@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I sure hope your right, but we did not just give them stuff and tell them to figure it out, we trained them for 20 years, with the most experienced soldiers in the world. It's obviously a motivation and culture issue, so maybe after they realize how shit things have gone they may make a change, but I am not holding my breath. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago The US invasion of Afghanistan basically paused Afghani political progress for 20 years, because they were too busy fighting a foreign invader. Doesn't help that the US-backed government was famously corrupt. Change in the Afghani political sphere was always going to start after, not before, the US pulled out of Afghanistan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago We gave them that training. They didn't earn it. They didn't seek it, nothing. And because it wasn't something that they earned, they squandered it. We're enabling them. We're not doing the most helpful thing by giving them all this hardware and training. The most helpful thing would be sending them a bunch of LSD microdose pills. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago The US invasion of Afghanistan basically paused Afghani political progress for 20 years, because they were too busy fighting a foreign invader. Doesn't help that the US-backed government was famously corrupt. Change in the Afghani political sphere was always going to start after, not before, the US pulled out of Afghanistan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago We gave them that training. They didn't earn it. They didn't seek it, nothing. And because it wasn't something that they earned, they squandered it. We're enabling them. We're not doing the most helpful thing by giving them all this hardware and training. The most helpful thing would be sending them a bunch of LSD microdose pills. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world [S] -2 points 2 years ago Sure, blame the Afghan civilians after bombing their country back to the stone age and then trying to occupy it for 20 years with said largest military in the world only to pull THAT rug out from under them with a sudden bungled withdrawal. It's not like the West had anything to do with the Taliban taking power in the first place, right? Right? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) They did, they wanted this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s like saying that we wanted Trump. He didn’t win the popular vote; we didn’t want him but he was there anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What an absurd comparison. Regardless, I didn't see liberals speaking with their actions and fighting a guerilla war for twenty years against the US Army. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'll rephrase what you said: I don't like that you pointed out something inconvenient so I will dismiss it and redirect the conversation elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 2 years ago Wow that's some real clown tier shit lmao. Redirect the conversation to the Taliban having enough popular support to fight an insurgency against a superpower again? You know, what the conversation was before you tried to pretend the electoral college getting a narrow win, working entirely as designed, means a very large percentage of America doesn't support the fascists? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s like saying that we wanted Trump. He didn’t win the popular vote; we didn’t want him but he was there anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What an absurd comparison. Regardless, I didn't see liberals speaking with their actions and fighting a guerilla war for twenty years against the US Army. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'll rephrase what you said: I don't like that you pointed out something inconvenient so I will dismiss it and redirect the conversation elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 2 years ago Wow that's some real clown tier shit lmao. Redirect the conversation to the Taliban having enough popular support to fight an insurgency against a superpower again? You know, what the conversation was before you tried to pretend the electoral college getting a narrow win, working entirely as designed, means a very large percentage of America doesn't support the fascists? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What an absurd comparison. Regardless, I didn't see liberals speaking with their actions and fighting a guerilla war for twenty years against the US Army. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'll rephrase what you said: I don't like that you pointed out something inconvenient so I will dismiss it and redirect the conversation elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 2 years ago Wow that's some real clown tier shit lmao. Redirect the conversation to the Taliban having enough popular support to fight an insurgency against a superpower again? You know, what the conversation was before you tried to pretend the electoral college getting a narrow win, working entirely as designed, means a very large percentage of America doesn't support the fascists? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'll rephrase what you said: I don't like that you pointed out something inconvenient so I will dismiss it and redirect the conversation elsewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 2 years ago Wow that's some real clown tier shit lmao. Redirect the conversation to the Taliban having enough popular support to fight an insurgency against a superpower again? You know, what the conversation was before you tried to pretend the electoral college getting a narrow win, working entirely as designed, means a very large percentage of America doesn't support the fascists? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 2 years ago Wow that's some real clown tier shit lmao. Redirect the conversation to the Taliban having enough popular support to fight an insurgency against a superpower again? You know, what the conversation was before you tried to pretend the electoral college getting a narrow win, working entirely as designed, means a very large percentage of America doesn't support the fascists? permalink fedilink source parent