▲ 837 ▼ Lawsuit time 🇺🇸🦅 (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by GamerBoy705@lemmy.world [M] to c/softwaregore@lemmy.world 89 comments fedilink hide all child comments Reminds me of the Therac-25 incident..
[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 193 points 2 years ago (1 child) Jesus. QA is not a corner you should cut when it's literally life and death. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) So uh… as someone who works in biotech and understands exactly what level of rigor is required before the FDA allows you to sell a medical device - a term that has specific legal definition, regulations, and restrictions, I’m a bit suspicious this could be fake. This sort of error would indicate a systemic error and abrogation of due diligence at at least 4 different levels, and would be an apocalyptically huge lawsuit. Edit: I stand corrected - lots of people are corroborating this whole thing. That’s kind of astounding, tbh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] sbonds@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.omnipod.com/fsn-11-2023 Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DriftingDeep@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (1 child) “and would be an apocalyptically huge lawsuit.” Apocalyptically huge lawsuit, here we come!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) This all vibes like the kind of lawsuit that ideally should land managers in prison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DriftingDeep@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That is a sacrifice I am willing to make! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago If the user does not recognize the issue, this may lead to delivery of more insulin than intended I love their subtle attempt at shifting blame here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xalo@lemm.ee 56 points 2 years ago Not fake. I'm a type 1 diabetic on this version of Omnipod and have noticed this before as well as other issues. I also had the app refuse to let me close an innocuous error modal window to activate a pod while I was in another country. While I love the hardware, the software feels precisely like it has been outsourced to a team with no knowledge of what T1 is and whoever internally is greenlighting the changes isn't properly testing. The newest officially supported phone is the S21. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yazirian@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago There is a video demo of the bug later on the thread. Some android devices have a combination .- key on the numeric input UI. This is a contentious enough design choice to have stackoverflow threads on it. That combo key style is what's used by the device and version shown on the demo. It appears that the device is reading that combo key as - and discarding (or taking absolute value), and not as a leading decimal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago I mean they posted the steps to replicate it so it wouldn't take long to debunk that sort of thing as being fake. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) FDA requirements were the first thing that popped into my mind. Is it possible somehow these devices fall under different regulations than "medical devices"? I am only vaguely familiar with the applicable 21 CFR regs. This seems like a pretty gargantuan screw up since it could, I would think, kill people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FruitfullyYours@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago It's class III medical device software permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) So uh… as someone who works in biotech and understands exactly what level of rigor is required before the FDA allows you to sell a medical device - a term that has specific legal definition, regulations, and restrictions, I’m a bit suspicious this could be fake. This sort of error would indicate a systemic error and abrogation of due diligence at at least 4 different levels, and would be an apocalyptically huge lawsuit. Edit: I stand corrected - lots of people are corroborating this whole thing. That’s kind of astounding, tbh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] sbonds@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.omnipod.com/fsn-11-2023 Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DriftingDeep@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (1 child) “and would be an apocalyptically huge lawsuit.” Apocalyptically huge lawsuit, here we come!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) This all vibes like the kind of lawsuit that ideally should land managers in prison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DriftingDeep@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That is a sacrifice I am willing to make! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago If the user does not recognize the issue, this may lead to delivery of more insulin than intended I love their subtle attempt at shifting blame here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xalo@lemm.ee 56 points 2 years ago Not fake. I'm a type 1 diabetic on this version of Omnipod and have noticed this before as well as other issues. I also had the app refuse to let me close an innocuous error modal window to activate a pod while I was in another country. While I love the hardware, the software feels precisely like it has been outsourced to a team with no knowledge of what T1 is and whoever internally is greenlighting the changes isn't properly testing. The newest officially supported phone is the S21. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yazirian@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago There is a video demo of the bug later on the thread. Some android devices have a combination .- key on the numeric input UI. This is a contentious enough design choice to have stackoverflow threads on it. That combo key style is what's used by the device and version shown on the demo. It appears that the device is reading that combo key as - and discarding (or taking absolute value), and not as a leading decimal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago I mean they posted the steps to replicate it so it wouldn't take long to debunk that sort of thing as being fake. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) FDA requirements were the first thing that popped into my mind. Is it possible somehow these devices fall under different regulations than "medical devices"? I am only vaguely familiar with the applicable 21 CFR regs. This seems like a pretty gargantuan screw up since it could, I would think, kill people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FruitfullyYours@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago It's class III medical device software permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sbonds@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.omnipod.com/fsn-11-2023 Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DriftingDeep@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (1 child) “and would be an apocalyptically huge lawsuit.” Apocalyptically huge lawsuit, here we come!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) This all vibes like the kind of lawsuit that ideally should land managers in prison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DriftingDeep@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That is a sacrifice I am willing to make! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago If the user does not recognize the issue, this may lead to delivery of more insulin than intended I love their subtle attempt at shifting blame here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DriftingDeep@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (1 child) “and would be an apocalyptically huge lawsuit.” Apocalyptically huge lawsuit, here we come!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) This all vibes like the kind of lawsuit that ideally should land managers in prison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DriftingDeep@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That is a sacrifice I am willing to make! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) This all vibes like the kind of lawsuit that ideally should land managers in prison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DriftingDeep@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That is a sacrifice I am willing to make! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DriftingDeep@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago That is a sacrifice I am willing to make! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago If the user does not recognize the issue, this may lead to delivery of more insulin than intended I love their subtle attempt at shifting blame here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xalo@lemm.ee 56 points 2 years ago Not fake. I'm a type 1 diabetic on this version of Omnipod and have noticed this before as well as other issues. I also had the app refuse to let me close an innocuous error modal window to activate a pod while I was in another country. While I love the hardware, the software feels precisely like it has been outsourced to a team with no knowledge of what T1 is and whoever internally is greenlighting the changes isn't properly testing. The newest officially supported phone is the S21. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yazirian@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago There is a video demo of the bug later on the thread. Some android devices have a combination .- key on the numeric input UI. This is a contentious enough design choice to have stackoverflow threads on it. That combo key style is what's used by the device and version shown on the demo. It appears that the device is reading that combo key as - and discarding (or taking absolute value), and not as a leading decimal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago I mean they posted the steps to replicate it so it wouldn't take long to debunk that sort of thing as being fake. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) FDA requirements were the first thing that popped into my mind. Is it possible somehow these devices fall under different regulations than "medical devices"? I am only vaguely familiar with the applicable 21 CFR regs. This seems like a pretty gargantuan screw up since it could, I would think, kill people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FruitfullyYours@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago It's class III medical device software permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FruitfullyYours@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago It's class III medical device software permalink fedilink source parent