▲ 576 ▼ City roads should be ‘ripped out completely’ to fight pollution, says government adviser (www.telegraph.co.uk) submitted 2 years ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 218 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] grue@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago (5 children) ITT: trolls seizing upon a clickbait headline and out-of-context quote in order to make blatantly delusional strawman arguments. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Shalakushka@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago It's literally two idiots contorting into ludicrous shapes just to stay mad about this. It's wild. WHAT ABOUT THE TRUCKS???? I am going to quote one clause of the article over and over to prove I didn't read it and get mad at people who suggest that anything could change in any way, ever! Trucks are part of human DNA and the moment an 18 wheeler can't smog up your back yard is when we have all lost our freedumb!!! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) People not realising the Telegraph is one step up from shitty xenophobic racist shitrags like The S*n permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -13 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Ok, then why was an article from this source even posted to this community in the first place, and why is it popular enough to be at the top of the community right now? If it's such a bad article and source and does not represent the values of this community, shouldn't it have a lot more down votes? And also fewer community members defending the content of the article? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drkt@feddit.dk 12 points 2 years ago I upvote it because I see a headline like this and go "damn, based" and then I move on with my life without reading the article or the comments. I think that's what most people do, man. It's a coincidence that I noticed the votes to comments ratio and decided to check it out because when its this even it's usually a shitstorm worth reading. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) If it’s such a bad article and source and does not represent the values of this community, shouldn’t it have a lot more down votes? And also fewer community members defending the content of the article? I get the impression that the Lemmy "fuck cars" communities have a much larger percentage of concern trolls (case in point: you, frankly, who inspired the comment at the top of this chain in the first place!) than the R*ddit one did. It might be a function of smaller community size + relative ease of reaching "All" [what's a good way of notating that for Lemmy, BTW?]. It could also be a difference in moderation zealousness and/or priorities, although I feel like I've noticed the same phenomenon across both !fuckcars@lemmy.world and !fuck_cars@lemmy.ml, so maybe not (I haven't been paying close enough attention to be sure, though). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's okay to say Reddit, nobody will arrest you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It doesn't deserve to have its name spoken. permalink fedilink source parent [+] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) So basically, this community is an echo chamber that will upvote any drivel which supports the prevailing narrative no matter how poorly written or thought out, and shout down any dissenting opinions or critical voices and dismiss them as "trolling" (which I am obviously not doing, as I am directly addressing the content of the article that was posted). permalink fedilink source parent [–] SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm sure the quote is completely out of context and the guy who's also called for people to limit the use of “personal care products”, “computers” and “printers” in their homes which he said were contributing to pollution. isn't just one of those "back-to-monkee, comfort is unnecessary" types. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not sure what his beef is with computers, but to be fair, laser printers and aerosol products like hair spray and deodorant really are pretty bad for indoor air quality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 point 2 years ago laser printers Hot paper smells so nice though 😮 permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago I really want people to continue to use deodorant permalink fedilink source parent [–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Also ITT: a lot of people who didn't actually read the article and are instead making arguments based on their feelings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Story of humanity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -3 points 2 years ago I mean... it's not a particularly in-depth article. Do you have a better source with more context for Dr. Fuller's comments? The burden of providing better context is on the people who support this point of view, not on the people criticizing what the article says. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shalakushka@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago It's literally two idiots contorting into ludicrous shapes just to stay mad about this. It's wild. WHAT ABOUT THE TRUCKS???? I am going to quote one clause of the article over and over to prove I didn't read it and get mad at people who suggest that anything could change in any way, ever! Trucks are part of human DNA and the moment an 18 wheeler can't smog up your back yard is when we have all lost our freedumb!!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) People not realising the Telegraph is one step up from shitty xenophobic racist shitrags like The S*n permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -13 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Ok, then why was an article from this source even posted to this community in the first place, and why is it popular enough to be at the top of the community right now? If it's such a bad article and source and does not represent the values of this community, shouldn't it have a lot more down votes? And also fewer community members defending the content of the article? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drkt@feddit.dk 12 points 2 years ago I upvote it because I see a headline like this and go "damn, based" and then I move on with my life without reading the article or the comments. I think that's what most people do, man. It's a coincidence that I noticed the votes to comments ratio and decided to check it out because when its this even it's usually a shitstorm worth reading. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) If it’s such a bad article and source and does not represent the values of this community, shouldn’t it have a lot more down votes? And also fewer community members defending the content of the article? I get the impression that the Lemmy "fuck cars" communities have a much larger percentage of concern trolls (case in point: you, frankly, who inspired the comment at the top of this chain in the first place!) than the R*ddit one did. It might be a function of smaller community size + relative ease of reaching "All" [what's a good way of notating that for Lemmy, BTW?]. It could also be a difference in moderation zealousness and/or priorities, although I feel like I've noticed the same phenomenon across both !fuckcars@lemmy.world and !fuck_cars@lemmy.ml, so maybe not (I haven't been paying close enough attention to be sure, though). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's okay to say Reddit, nobody will arrest you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It doesn't deserve to have its name spoken. permalink fedilink source parent [+] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) So basically, this community is an echo chamber that will upvote any drivel which supports the prevailing narrative no matter how poorly written or thought out, and shout down any dissenting opinions or critical voices and dismiss them as "trolling" (which I am obviously not doing, as I am directly addressing the content of the article that was posted). permalink fedilink source parent
[+] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -13 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Ok, then why was an article from this source even posted to this community in the first place, and why is it popular enough to be at the top of the community right now? If it's such a bad article and source and does not represent the values of this community, shouldn't it have a lot more down votes? And also fewer community members defending the content of the article? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drkt@feddit.dk 12 points 2 years ago I upvote it because I see a headline like this and go "damn, based" and then I move on with my life without reading the article or the comments. I think that's what most people do, man. It's a coincidence that I noticed the votes to comments ratio and decided to check it out because when its this even it's usually a shitstorm worth reading. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) If it’s such a bad article and source and does not represent the values of this community, shouldn’t it have a lot more down votes? And also fewer community members defending the content of the article? I get the impression that the Lemmy "fuck cars" communities have a much larger percentage of concern trolls (case in point: you, frankly, who inspired the comment at the top of this chain in the first place!) than the R*ddit one did. It might be a function of smaller community size + relative ease of reaching "All" [what's a good way of notating that for Lemmy, BTW?]. It could also be a difference in moderation zealousness and/or priorities, although I feel like I've noticed the same phenomenon across both !fuckcars@lemmy.world and !fuck_cars@lemmy.ml, so maybe not (I haven't been paying close enough attention to be sure, though). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's okay to say Reddit, nobody will arrest you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It doesn't deserve to have its name spoken. permalink fedilink source parent [+] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) So basically, this community is an echo chamber that will upvote any drivel which supports the prevailing narrative no matter how poorly written or thought out, and shout down any dissenting opinions or critical voices and dismiss them as "trolling" (which I am obviously not doing, as I am directly addressing the content of the article that was posted). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drkt@feddit.dk 12 points 2 years ago I upvote it because I see a headline like this and go "damn, based" and then I move on with my life without reading the article or the comments. I think that's what most people do, man. It's a coincidence that I noticed the votes to comments ratio and decided to check it out because when its this even it's usually a shitstorm worth reading. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) If it’s such a bad article and source and does not represent the values of this community, shouldn’t it have a lot more down votes? And also fewer community members defending the content of the article? I get the impression that the Lemmy "fuck cars" communities have a much larger percentage of concern trolls (case in point: you, frankly, who inspired the comment at the top of this chain in the first place!) than the R*ddit one did. It might be a function of smaller community size + relative ease of reaching "All" [what's a good way of notating that for Lemmy, BTW?]. It could also be a difference in moderation zealousness and/or priorities, although I feel like I've noticed the same phenomenon across both !fuckcars@lemmy.world and !fuck_cars@lemmy.ml, so maybe not (I haven't been paying close enough attention to be sure, though). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's okay to say Reddit, nobody will arrest you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It doesn't deserve to have its name spoken. permalink fedilink source parent [+] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) So basically, this community is an echo chamber that will upvote any drivel which supports the prevailing narrative no matter how poorly written or thought out, and shout down any dissenting opinions or critical voices and dismiss them as "trolling" (which I am obviously not doing, as I am directly addressing the content of the article that was posted). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It's okay to say Reddit, nobody will arrest you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It doesn't deserve to have its name spoken. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It doesn't deserve to have its name spoken. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) So basically, this community is an echo chamber that will upvote any drivel which supports the prevailing narrative no matter how poorly written or thought out, and shout down any dissenting opinions or critical voices and dismiss them as "trolling" (which I am obviously not doing, as I am directly addressing the content of the article that was posted). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, I'm sure the quote is completely out of context and the guy who's also called for people to limit the use of “personal care products”, “computers” and “printers” in their homes which he said were contributing to pollution. isn't just one of those "back-to-monkee, comfort is unnecessary" types. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not sure what his beef is with computers, but to be fair, laser printers and aerosol products like hair spray and deodorant really are pretty bad for indoor air quality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 point 2 years ago laser printers Hot paper smells so nice though 😮 permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago I really want people to continue to use deodorant permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not sure what his beef is with computers, but to be fair, laser printers and aerosol products like hair spray and deodorant really are pretty bad for indoor air quality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 point 2 years ago laser printers Hot paper smells so nice though 😮 permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago I really want people to continue to use deodorant permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 point 2 years ago laser printers Hot paper smells so nice though 😮 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago I really want people to continue to use deodorant permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Also ITT: a lot of people who didn't actually read the article and are instead making arguments based on their feelings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Story of humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -3 points 2 years ago I mean... it's not a particularly in-depth article. Do you have a better source with more context for Dr. Fuller's comments? The burden of providing better context is on the people who support this point of view, not on the people criticizing what the article says. permalink fedilink source parent