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City roads should be ‘ripped out completely’ to fight pollution, says government adviser (www.telegraph.co.uk)
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[+] -13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is a fantasy. It can't be implemented in large scale in any practical sense.

Centralization of distribution and centralization of production is always more efficient. You aren't going to put dairy farms next to apartment buildings next to orchards next to paper manufacturing plants next to microchip fabricators next to restaurants next to family homes next to waste water treatment next to hospitals next to bookstores next to power generators next to garbage incinerators next to grocery stores...

These things get separated from each other for good reason, and running rail lines to all of them will never be practical. There will always be a need to fill the gap with small, independently powered vehicles for cargo transport.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You know, for someone who complains about other people making strawman of them, you sure do seem fond of it yourself.

    Someone: "We should reduce our dependency on cars and shift our infrastructure planning toward other modes of transport wherever possible."

    You: "SO YOU WANT TO TEAR OUT ALL ROADS EVERYWHERE AND EXECUTE PEOPLE FOR OWNING CARS?!?1!?!1?"

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  • [+] -10 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    "We should reduce our dependency on cars and shift our infrastructure planning toward other modes of transport wherever possible."

    This is not what the article says.

    SO YOU WANT TO TEAR OUT ALL ROADS EVERYWHERE

    This is closer to what the article says.

    A government adviser has called for roads in cities to be “ripped out completely” to combat air pollution.

    This is the first paragraph of the article.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    ...and then you actually read the article past the misleading click bait, right? The Telegraph is a conservative paper, they have an interest in smearing anyone who challenges the status quo.

    Up to 80 per cent of people living on arterial routes in urban areas did not own cars, with most of the pollution being caused by motorists driving into and through their communities.

    Pointing to the “greening” of city centres such as Seoul and Utrecht, he said: “We should start changing our cities and actually start thinking about ripping out road infrastructure and turning them into green spaces or green transport corridors. We have to look beyond traffic.”

    That is not something a reasonable person would interpret as ripping out 100% of roads. Especially since he references real projects like Seoul.

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