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War resumes in Gaza after truce collapses (www.reuters.com)
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[–] 31 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

Reminder that there was a 56 year occupation and a 75 year ethnic cleansing before the 7th of October attacks

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Some more reminders to add:

    • Reminder that a majority of Palestinian deaths since October 7th were not members of Hamas

    • Reminder that hundreds have been murdered in the West Bank since October 7th even though "war" was only declared against Hamas who has no administration over the West Bank

    • Reminder that a large swath of civilian deaths were children who had no say in the 2006 "election" of Hamas to administer the Gaza strip

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    • Reminder that multiple Palestinian villages have been ethnically cleansed in the West Bank during the assault on Gaza, by settler militias supported by the IOF.

    • Reminder that Israel rejected early proposals for hostage exchanges opting instead for carnage on the Palestinian civilians.

    • Reminder that Israel KNEW of the October 7 attack ahead of time and failed to do anything to stop it.

    • Reminder that Israel is by all accounts a setler-colonial ethnostate imposing apartheid on the Palestinian people.

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  • [+] -19 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    imposing apartheid on the Palestinian people.

    If you're interested in the double standard regarding such definitions, watch this: "Algeria, where are your Jews?" For those unaware of the answer, they were driven from the Muslim world.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    My support for Palestinian liberation has nothing to do with Algeria, sorry.

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  • [+] -15 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    You called them an apartheid state, Algeria, (along with Palestine and other Pro-Palestinian Islamic nations,) had something to do with the UN inappropriately defining them as such. Maybe watch the video?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The title is a whataboutism. So no, I'm not going to give it engagement, even to debunk it. Israel's occupation of the West Bank and imprisonment of Gaza is objectively Apartheid, all on it's own.

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  • [+] -13 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Can't be proven wrong if you refuse to look at contradictory evidence.
    Judging books and videos by their titles is foolish. This is incredibly relevant, even if you choose willful ignorance.

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  • [+] -13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Reminder that a large swath of civilian deaths were children who had no say in the 2006 “election” of Hamas to administer the Gaza strip

    Gazan checklist: Elect a terrorist government, support Intifada (70% support,) have lots of kids in miserable conditions while in what critics call an "open air prison," teach your kids to hate and become militants, allow Hamas to hide among your children while starting an unwinnable war, then blame Israel for the inevitable and predictable consequences.

    Why do none of you seem to consider Gazan parents responsible for the circumstances of their children?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Maybe when you admit your parents raised you poorly, others might as well. You should lead by example.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Maybe when you admit your parents raised you poorly, others might as well. You should lead by example.

    Seems like you're trying to violate rule 5 without addressing the substance of my comment.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Your post was basically a blood libel against Palestinians. Is that enough addressing of the substance for you?

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Your post was basically a blood libel against Palestinians.

    I'd love to hear you make this obviously absurd comparison. Tell me more about how personal responsibility for one's offspring is the same as baseless accusation of murdering and using the blood of Christians for rituals. I'll wait.

    Blood libel or ritual murder libel (also blood accusation) is an antisemitic canard which falsely accuses Jews of murdering Christians in order to use their blood in the performance of religious rituals.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You are blaming children for the sins of the parents at best. Or absolutely making up accusations out of whole cloth at worst. It's not 1:1. But it's still not a good look.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    You are blaming children for the sins of the parents at best. Or absolutely making up accusations out of whole cloth at worst. It’s not 1:1. But it’s still not a good look.

    So, not like blood libel at all then. Got it.

    Parents are in fact responsible for the conditions their children experience. They chose to create them under those circumstances, they chose to stay in those conditions, (before the war started they could have left through Rafah,) and most chose to support Intifada, (citation above,) leading to the current reprisals.

    What accusations did I make up?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Germans making excuses to hate innocent people. You making excuses to hate innocent people. How is a different?

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There was never a "56-year occupation" and ethnic cleansing.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, that's where you're wrong..

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You are literally considering existing on an undisputed land as "occupation" and self-defense as ethnic cleansing. Just look at numbers of Palestinian population and the whole ethnic cleansing shit I see on the internet falls apart.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Undisputed land? Bro are you that daft?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yes, it is undisputed land. How else would you call it? Had Palestinians accepted one of the 14 offers Israel gave them, it could have been Palestinian land but now it is an undisputed land.

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