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[–] 92 points 3 years ago (6 children)

Christ, do this many people really find iso8601 hard to read? It’s the date and the time with a T in the middle.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Not "many people." Americans. Americans find it hard to read. I'm not 100% sure but I'm fairly certain everyone else in the world agrees that either day/month/year or year/month/day is the best way to clearly indicate a date. You know, because big to small. America believes month/day/year for some stupid fucking reason.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I'm pretty sure it's because of the way we say it. Like, "May 6th, 2023". So we write it 5/6/2023.

    That said, I think it's fucking stupid.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yer, just like the most important day for the seppos... The 4th of July...

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    I will never stop being impressed by the absolute insanity that is British rhyming slang. Apparently I've never heard seppo before, short for septic tank, rhyming with Yank. I just learned a new mildy derogatory term for Americans, nice

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    I am an American and I use it religiously for the record. Especially for version numbers. Major.minor.year.month.day.hour.minute-commit. It sorts easy, is specific, intuitive, and makes it clear which version you’re using/working on.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    America believes month/day/year for some stupid fucking reason.

    It's because of Great Britain. We adopted it from them while a bunch of colonies and it regionally spread to others.

    America didn't change, probably because we have been so geographically isolated (relatively speaking), whereas the modern day UK did change to be more like Europe.

    People get so goddamn hot and bothered by things that ultimately don't matter almost like it is a culture war issue. Americans maintain the mm/dd/yyyy format because that's how speak the dates.

    I wouldn't say it is us Americans who "find it hard to read" if someone from elsewhere in the world sees an American date, knows we date things in the old way they used to date things, and then loses their minds over having to swap day for month. Everyone just wants to be contrarian and circle jerk about ISO and such.

    Us devs, on the other hand, absolutely should use the same format of yyyy-mm-dd plus time and time zone offset, as needed. There's no reason, in this age, for dates to be culturally distinct in the tech space. Follow a machine-first standard and then convert just like we do with all other localizatons.

    But hey, if people want to be pedantic, let's talk about archaic gendered languages which are completely useless and has almost zero consistency.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Bruh even Britain uses day-month-year, even speaks them as “9th of September”.
    “September 9th” doesn't even make sense in English as there is only 1 September in a year.

    America did this.
    There is no excusing that.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Day/month/year is not in the same category as y/m/d. That crap is so ambiguous. Is today August 9th? Or September 8th? Y/m/d to the rescue.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It's only ambiguous to Americans.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Or anyone who has to work with Americans. Especially when you also work with other countries as well. You can't assume dd/mm/yyyy or mm/dd/yyyy blindly in either case. yyyy-mm-dd solves the issue entirely because both sides at least agree that yyyy-dd-mm isn't a thing.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Because who cares what day it is without knowing the month first.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Who cares what month it is without knowing the year first

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I think it's fair that programmatic and human readable can be different. If someone is putting in the month word for a logging system they can fuck right off though

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    If someone is putting in the month word for a logging system they can fuck right off though

    That way you can sort the months of the year, in order:

    • April
    • August
    • December
    • February
    • January
    • July
    • June
    • March
    • May
    • November
    • September
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  • [–] [B] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    As long as they use letter for months, like Jul 09, 2013 its fine. Otherwise prefer a sorted timescale version. Either slow changing to fast changing yyyy mm dd or fast to slow dd mm yyyy.

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