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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (4 children) What I fear. Biden just weak and his presidency been meh. I will vote for him but will enough people do the same in the states that count. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] workerONE@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (2 children) The infrastructure bill was a big accomplishment. With that said, I don't really care for his personality and all I wanted was healthcare reform (single payer, etc) which we didn't get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago and all I wanted was healthcare reform (single payer, etc) which we didn't get. Manchin and (especially) Sinema made that impossible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Will you vote for him again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spader312@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) I am voting for him again because I don't want trump or any other of the Republican candidates as my president. But could we have a better democratic candidate? Definitely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) There's a very real chance the vice president ends up taking charge, Biden does look like he could die of old age any day now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spader312@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Here's to hoping he gets a new VP lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If there is anyone the public likes less than Biden. It is Kamala Harris Holy shit, has she done anything at all for 4 years? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago has she done anything at all for 4 years? avoid media scrutiny? permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could we, though? Who would you propose would be better without scaring off swing voters who are more afraid of imaginary socialism than real fascism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean that is the narrative right, we have to go with a centrist because it might scareee people to give them universal healthcare. The reality is that in a lot of cases Biden is to the right of the majority of the US on issues. Take the Israeli genocide of Palestinians, it is extremely unpopular to support it right now among US voters (especially younger ones) but I am sure the media narrative is that oh we can't say no to Israel, that would doom Biden for being too leftist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Calling it a "narrative" doesn't make it not true. It wouldn't have taken very many people voting differently for Trump to have win last time, and that's without swing voters' goldfish memories fucking things up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] workerONE@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* Yeah, I think he's been an okay president, and he could serve another term. I also don't think Trump should have that power. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) He's done some good environmental stuff. But we'll see 😬 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fredselfish@lemmy.world -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure how many train derailment under his watch. Oh yeah thanks to him rail workers can't strike. And I don't hear bullshit "He GoT tHeM a RaSiE LaTeR" nonsense. The strike wasn't just about sick time which got them what 1 day. It was about how the fucking greedy rail companies were endangering lives and not fixing the infrastructure. Also Biden sold more oil leases then Trump so naw not good on the environment either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Shadywack@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (3 children) I see a salty downvoter doesn't like facing reality. Truth is we're not going to get a good candidate, Trump is the front runner and it's got people riled up. I don't see "good" in the next election cycle, I just see "shitty and less shitty". A shitty leader is still a shitty leader, and it's going to add to the apathy issue we have as well while empowering populist nutjobs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago That's the real truth of it, instead of whining about "don't let the other guy win" what we should be doing is joining together to eat the rich. permalink fedilink source parent [+] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Finally enough, less crappy over decades still got us way more crappy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ExLisper@linux.community 6 points 2 years ago And I think it's one more thing that Poland will copy from US. People got super exited when the right wing government lost the election but my prediction has always been that the "progressive" government will be extremely meh and in 4 years they will lose anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk -15 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, among polls of weird freaks who actually answer polls. Plus, do you even know how these are conducted? People under 60 don't answer calls from unknown numbers, nor do they have the landline phones that pollers call. Traditional media paradigms are dead and polls are now meaningless, it's time to adapt or die now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You sure enough to stake the future of democracy in the US on that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What does the validity of polls have to do with staking the future of democracy? If you can't speak without histrionics, close your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok. Let's make up excuses to ignore polls. It's better than having to try to appeal to (ugh) voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago Brain rot permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk -8 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mean, you’re defending polling that hasn’t been great for the least few elections and has meant almost nothing except for Trump winning the republican primary (obviously). I saw several polls saying that issue 1 in Ohio would barely pass. Definitely didn’t have polls predicting big dem wins this November either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) While I completely agree that people need to get active now and beat down the apathy, focusing on flawed data and developing a defeatist attitude probably isn't good for the soul. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago beat down the apathy The beatings will continue until morale improves. permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago People should be looking at this and getting involved to make sure younger people vote. Or maybe politicians should actually do shit for younger people to make them want to vote for them instead of spitting in their face and assuming they will get their vote because the other guy is worse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago* Nationally, democrats have been beating polls at the ballot box by 9+ points since Roe v. Wade was overturned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago *according to a couple of breathlessly recited outlier polls. A year is a lifetime in politics, and again, those few polls were statistical outliers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (2 children) The infrastructure bill was a big accomplishment. With that said, I don't really care for his personality and all I wanted was healthcare reform (single payer, etc) which we didn't get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago and all I wanted was healthcare reform (single payer, etc) which we didn't get. Manchin and (especially) Sinema made that impossible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Will you vote for him again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spader312@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) I am voting for him again because I don't want trump or any other of the Republican candidates as my president. But could we have a better democratic candidate? Definitely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) There's a very real chance the vice president ends up taking charge, Biden does look like he could die of old age any day now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spader312@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Here's to hoping he gets a new VP lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If there is anyone the public likes less than Biden. It is Kamala Harris Holy shit, has she done anything at all for 4 years? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago has she done anything at all for 4 years? avoid media scrutiny? permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could we, though? Who would you propose would be better without scaring off swing voters who are more afraid of imaginary socialism than real fascism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean that is the narrative right, we have to go with a centrist because it might scareee people to give them universal healthcare. The reality is that in a lot of cases Biden is to the right of the majority of the US on issues. Take the Israeli genocide of Palestinians, it is extremely unpopular to support it right now among US voters (especially younger ones) but I am sure the media narrative is that oh we can't say no to Israel, that would doom Biden for being too leftist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Calling it a "narrative" doesn't make it not true. It wouldn't have taken very many people voting differently for Trump to have win last time, and that's without swing voters' goldfish memories fucking things up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] workerONE@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* Yeah, I think he's been an okay president, and he could serve another term. I also don't think Trump should have that power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago and all I wanted was healthcare reform (single payer, etc) which we didn't get. Manchin and (especially) Sinema made that impossible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Will you vote for him again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spader312@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) I am voting for him again because I don't want trump or any other of the Republican candidates as my president. But could we have a better democratic candidate? Definitely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) There's a very real chance the vice president ends up taking charge, Biden does look like he could die of old age any day now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spader312@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Here's to hoping he gets a new VP lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If there is anyone the public likes less than Biden. It is Kamala Harris Holy shit, has she done anything at all for 4 years? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago has she done anything at all for 4 years? avoid media scrutiny? permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could we, though? Who would you propose would be better without scaring off swing voters who are more afraid of imaginary socialism than real fascism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean that is the narrative right, we have to go with a centrist because it might scareee people to give them universal healthcare. The reality is that in a lot of cases Biden is to the right of the majority of the US on issues. Take the Israeli genocide of Palestinians, it is extremely unpopular to support it right now among US voters (especially younger ones) but I am sure the media narrative is that oh we can't say no to Israel, that would doom Biden for being too leftist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Calling it a "narrative" doesn't make it not true. It wouldn't have taken very many people voting differently for Trump to have win last time, and that's without swing voters' goldfish memories fucking things up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] workerONE@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* Yeah, I think he's been an okay president, and he could serve another term. I also don't think Trump should have that power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spader312@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) I am voting for him again because I don't want trump or any other of the Republican candidates as my president. But could we have a better democratic candidate? Definitely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) There's a very real chance the vice president ends up taking charge, Biden does look like he could die of old age any day now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spader312@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Here's to hoping he gets a new VP lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If there is anyone the public likes less than Biden. It is Kamala Harris Holy shit, has she done anything at all for 4 years? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago has she done anything at all for 4 years? avoid media scrutiny? permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could we, though? Who would you propose would be better without scaring off swing voters who are more afraid of imaginary socialism than real fascism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean that is the narrative right, we have to go with a centrist because it might scareee people to give them universal healthcare. The reality is that in a lot of cases Biden is to the right of the majority of the US on issues. Take the Israeli genocide of Palestinians, it is extremely unpopular to support it right now among US voters (especially younger ones) but I am sure the media narrative is that oh we can't say no to Israel, that would doom Biden for being too leftist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Calling it a "narrative" doesn't make it not true. It wouldn't have taken very many people voting differently for Trump to have win last time, and that's without swing voters' goldfish memories fucking things up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) There's a very real chance the vice president ends up taking charge, Biden does look like he could die of old age any day now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spader312@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Here's to hoping he gets a new VP lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If there is anyone the public likes less than Biden. It is Kamala Harris Holy shit, has she done anything at all for 4 years? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago has she done anything at all for 4 years? avoid media scrutiny? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spader312@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago Here's to hoping he gets a new VP lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If there is anyone the public likes less than Biden. It is Kamala Harris Holy shit, has she done anything at all for 4 years? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago has she done anything at all for 4 years? avoid media scrutiny? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago has she done anything at all for 4 years? avoid media scrutiny? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Could we, though? Who would you propose would be better without scaring off swing voters who are more afraid of imaginary socialism than real fascism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean that is the narrative right, we have to go with a centrist because it might scareee people to give them universal healthcare. The reality is that in a lot of cases Biden is to the right of the majority of the US on issues. Take the Israeli genocide of Palestinians, it is extremely unpopular to support it right now among US voters (especially younger ones) but I am sure the media narrative is that oh we can't say no to Israel, that would doom Biden for being too leftist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Calling it a "narrative" doesn't make it not true. It wouldn't have taken very many people voting differently for Trump to have win last time, and that's without swing voters' goldfish memories fucking things up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean that is the narrative right, we have to go with a centrist because it might scareee people to give them universal healthcare. The reality is that in a lot of cases Biden is to the right of the majority of the US on issues. Take the Israeli genocide of Palestinians, it is extremely unpopular to support it right now among US voters (especially younger ones) but I am sure the media narrative is that oh we can't say no to Israel, that would doom Biden for being too leftist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Calling it a "narrative" doesn't make it not true. It wouldn't have taken very many people voting differently for Trump to have win last time, and that's without swing voters' goldfish memories fucking things up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* Calling it a "narrative" doesn't make it not true. It wouldn't have taken very many people voting differently for Trump to have win last time, and that's without swing voters' goldfish memories fucking things up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* Yeah, I think he's been an okay president, and he could serve another term. I also don't think Trump should have that power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) He's done some good environmental stuff. But we'll see 😬 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fredselfish@lemmy.world -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure how many train derailment under his watch. Oh yeah thanks to him rail workers can't strike. And I don't hear bullshit "He GoT tHeM a RaSiE LaTeR" nonsense. The strike wasn't just about sick time which got them what 1 day. It was about how the fucking greedy rail companies were endangering lives and not fixing the infrastructure. Also Biden sold more oil leases then Trump so naw not good on the environment either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Shadywack@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (3 children) I see a salty downvoter doesn't like facing reality. Truth is we're not going to get a good candidate, Trump is the front runner and it's got people riled up. I don't see "good" in the next election cycle, I just see "shitty and less shitty". A shitty leader is still a shitty leader, and it's going to add to the apathy issue we have as well while empowering populist nutjobs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago That's the real truth of it, instead of whining about "don't let the other guy win" what we should be doing is joining together to eat the rich. permalink fedilink source parent [+] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Finally enough, less crappy over decades still got us way more crappy. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Fredselfish@lemmy.world -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure how many train derailment under his watch. Oh yeah thanks to him rail workers can't strike. And I don't hear bullshit "He GoT tHeM a RaSiE LaTeR" nonsense. The strike wasn't just about sick time which got them what 1 day. It was about how the fucking greedy rail companies were endangering lives and not fixing the infrastructure. Also Biden sold more oil leases then Trump so naw not good on the environment either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Shadywack@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (3 children) I see a salty downvoter doesn't like facing reality. Truth is we're not going to get a good candidate, Trump is the front runner and it's got people riled up. I don't see "good" in the next election cycle, I just see "shitty and less shitty". A shitty leader is still a shitty leader, and it's going to add to the apathy issue we have as well while empowering populist nutjobs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago That's the real truth of it, instead of whining about "don't let the other guy win" what we should be doing is joining together to eat the rich. permalink fedilink source parent [+] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Finally enough, less crappy over decades still got us way more crappy. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Shadywack@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (3 children) I see a salty downvoter doesn't like facing reality. Truth is we're not going to get a good candidate, Trump is the front runner and it's got people riled up. I don't see "good" in the next election cycle, I just see "shitty and less shitty". A shitty leader is still a shitty leader, and it's going to add to the apathy issue we have as well while empowering populist nutjobs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago That's the real truth of it, instead of whining about "don't let the other guy win" what we should be doing is joining together to eat the rich. permalink fedilink source parent [+] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Finally enough, less crappy over decades still got us way more crappy. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago That's the real truth of it, instead of whining about "don't let the other guy win" what we should be doing is joining together to eat the rich. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago That's the real truth of it, instead of whining about "don't let the other guy win" what we should be doing is joining together to eat the rich. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Finally enough, less crappy over decades still got us way more crappy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@linux.community 6 points 2 years ago And I think it's one more thing that Poland will copy from US. People got super exited when the right wing government lost the election but my prediction has always been that the "progressive" government will be extremely meh and in 4 years they will lose anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] quo@feddit.uk -15 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, among polls of weird freaks who actually answer polls. Plus, do you even know how these are conducted? People under 60 don't answer calls from unknown numbers, nor do they have the landline phones that pollers call. Traditional media paradigms are dead and polls are now meaningless, it's time to adapt or die now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You sure enough to stake the future of democracy in the US on that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What does the validity of polls have to do with staking the future of democracy? If you can't speak without histrionics, close your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok. Let's make up excuses to ignore polls. It's better than having to try to appeal to (ugh) voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago Brain rot permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk -8 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mean, you’re defending polling that hasn’t been great for the least few elections and has meant almost nothing except for Trump winning the republican primary (obviously). I saw several polls saying that issue 1 in Ohio would barely pass. Definitely didn’t have polls predicting big dem wins this November either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) While I completely agree that people need to get active now and beat down the apathy, focusing on flawed data and developing a defeatist attitude probably isn't good for the soul. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago beat down the apathy The beatings will continue until morale improves. permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago People should be looking at this and getting involved to make sure younger people vote. Or maybe politicians should actually do shit for younger people to make them want to vote for them instead of spitting in their face and assuming they will get their vote because the other guy is worse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago* Nationally, democrats have been beating polls at the ballot box by 9+ points since Roe v. Wade was overturned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago *according to a couple of breathlessly recited outlier polls. A year is a lifetime in politics, and again, those few polls were statistical outliers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, among polls of weird freaks who actually answer polls. Plus, do you even know how these are conducted? People under 60 don't answer calls from unknown numbers, nor do they have the landline phones that pollers call. Traditional media paradigms are dead and polls are now meaningless, it's time to adapt or die now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You sure enough to stake the future of democracy in the US on that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What does the validity of polls have to do with staking the future of democracy? If you can't speak without histrionics, close your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok. Let's make up excuses to ignore polls. It's better than having to try to appeal to (ugh) voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago Brain rot permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk -8 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mean, you’re defending polling that hasn’t been great for the least few elections and has meant almost nothing except for Trump winning the republican primary (obviously). I saw several polls saying that issue 1 in Ohio would barely pass. Definitely didn’t have polls predicting big dem wins this November either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) While I completely agree that people need to get active now and beat down the apathy, focusing on flawed data and developing a defeatist attitude probably isn't good for the soul. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago beat down the apathy The beatings will continue until morale improves. permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago People should be looking at this and getting involved to make sure younger people vote. Or maybe politicians should actually do shit for younger people to make them want to vote for them instead of spitting in their face and assuming they will get their vote because the other guy is worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) You sure enough to stake the future of democracy in the US on that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What does the validity of polls have to do with staking the future of democracy? If you can't speak without histrionics, close your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok. Let's make up excuses to ignore polls. It's better than having to try to appeal to (ugh) voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago Brain rot permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) What does the validity of polls have to do with staking the future of democracy? If you can't speak without histrionics, close your mouth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok. Let's make up excuses to ignore polls. It's better than having to try to appeal to (ugh) voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago Brain rot permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok. Let's make up excuses to ignore polls. It's better than having to try to appeal to (ugh) voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago Brain rot permalink fedilink source parent
[+] quo@feddit.uk -8 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mean, you’re defending polling that hasn’t been great for the least few elections and has meant almost nothing except for Trump winning the republican primary (obviously). I saw several polls saying that issue 1 in Ohio would barely pass. Definitely didn’t have polls predicting big dem wins this November either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) While I completely agree that people need to get active now and beat down the apathy, focusing on flawed data and developing a defeatist attitude probably isn't good for the soul. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago beat down the apathy The beatings will continue until morale improves. permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago People should be looking at this and getting involved to make sure younger people vote. Or maybe politicians should actually do shit for younger people to make them want to vote for them instead of spitting in their face and assuming they will get their vote because the other guy is worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I mean, you’re defending polling that hasn’t been great for the least few elections and has meant almost nothing except for Trump winning the republican primary (obviously). I saw several polls saying that issue 1 in Ohio would barely pass. Definitely didn’t have polls predicting big dem wins this November either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) While I completely agree that people need to get active now and beat down the apathy, focusing on flawed data and developing a defeatist attitude probably isn't good for the soul. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago beat down the apathy The beatings will continue until morale improves. permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago beat down the apathy The beatings will continue until morale improves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago People should be looking at this and getting involved to make sure younger people vote. Or maybe politicians should actually do shit for younger people to make them want to vote for them instead of spitting in their face and assuming they will get their vote because the other guy is worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago* Nationally, democrats have been beating polls at the ballot box by 9+ points since Roe v. Wade was overturned. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago *according to a couple of breathlessly recited outlier polls. A year is a lifetime in politics, and again, those few polls were statistical outliers. permalink fedilink source parent