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New Zealand scraps world-first smoking ‘generation ban’ to fund tax cuts (www.theguardian.com)
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Health experts say axing plan to block sales of tobacco products to next generation will cost thousands of lives

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[–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

"Their fix" is based on whatever dosage they're already used to. There's not some fixed upper bound that everyone achieves after their first cigarette.

Making cigarettes less addictive would make new addicts less addicted.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    At the cost of 50 years worth of current addicts smoking more.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    If we doubled the nicotine per cigarette, d'ya figure they'd all smoke half as many?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I doubt it. I think for most smokers, one cigarette does them for a while. I don't see anyone stopping at half a cigarette, so I'd guess it would only get smokers used to taking more nicotine in at a time.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    So this effect only works in one direction?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Like I said. Mainly because if someone lights up, they'll smoke the whole cigarette. Not half. But if they didn't get enough nicotine from one, instead of not smoking again for a couple hours, they may smoke again after just 45 minutes or so. Or even start chain smoking.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Or they'll adjust.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Smoking more IS the adjustment. Take some nicotine away, they'll crave more nicotine.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Or they'll adjust to how much is in what they're used to smoking. Their bodies will adjust. Because cravings are driven by exposure.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    And they'll smoke more in order to get the exposure they're used to.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    A value immune to change in exactly one direction, apparently.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You don't really know how an addiction works, do you? Nevermind that being a question for you to answer. I suppose I already know you don't.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Do you know how quitting an addiction works? Ideally... you take less.

    That's not a paradox or a gotcha. It's the only way people break the cycle. You understand that cycle can be deepened. You seem absolutely confident there's no other direction.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    You seem to think the people having low nicotine cigarettes forced on them want to quit smoking.

    And no. I'm not saying there is no other direction. Upping the age every year would work. Upping the prices would work, but is a ln asshole move for a government to make, banning cigarettes would work. Lowering nicotine in cigarettes is what wouldn't work. It's straight up something that would make the smoking related health issues of an entire country worse instead of better.

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