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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of "ML" (read: Dengist) influence. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, discussion and agitprop/stuff that's better fit for a poster than a meme go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

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Rules

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0. Only post socialist memes

That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme. Please post agitprop here)

0.5 [Provisional Rule] Use alt text or image descriptions to allow greater accessibility

(Please take a look at our wiki page for the guidelines on how to actually write alternative text!)

We require alternative text (from now referred to as "alt text") to be added to all posts/comments containing media, such as images, animated GIFs, videos, audio files, and custom emojis.
EDIT: For files you share in the comments, a simple summary should be enough if they’re too complex.

We are committed to social equity and to reducing barriers of entry, including (digital) communication and culture. It takes each of us only a few moments to make a whole world of content (more) accessible to a bunch of folks.

When alt text is absent, a reminder will be issued. If you don't add the missing alt text within 48 hours, the post will be removed. No hard feelings.

0.5.1 Style tip about abbreviations and short forms

When writing stuff like "lol" and "iirc", it's a good idea to try and replace those with their all caps counterpart

ofc => OFC
af = AF
ok => OK
lol => LOL
bc => BC
bs => BS
iirc => IIRC
cia => CIA
nato => Nato (you don't spell it when talking, right?)
usa => USA
prc => PRC
etc.

Why? Because otherwise (AFAIK), screen readers will try to read them out as actually words instead of spelling them

1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here

Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.

2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such

That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.

3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.

That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" (read: Dengists) (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).

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The only dangerous minority is the rich.

5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

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Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.

Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

If you don't even understand your own arguments, try not making them.

That AI explanation is even more narrow than the other incorrect narratives you've tried to put forth.

It's basically saying that if you look at blue as a color and acknowledge that red is a color, then blue is technically a subset of red.

Which it is not

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[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

I could explain. I just don’t see you as being worth the bother. Your uninformed followup that features exactly no useful rejoinders or any conception of political philosophy confirms I made the correct decision to treat you like a stooge.

I have engaged in no narratives, simply a correct understanding of the history and philosophy of the liberal movement.

I highly doubt you know enough about liberalism to even say what the philosophy cares about at its core.

I wish it surprised me that liberals don’t even know what liberalism is, but I’ve been involved in political debates for far too long.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

More vague accusations with no evidence or theses behind them.

You are single-mindedly focused on exposing your own ignorance.

By all means, take another swing.

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[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

oh dear god

try not to hurt yourself thinking

literally none of this is controversial to anyone with any sort of understanding of political philosophy. but go off

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

As long as you can't put forth a coherent thesis or even a clear opinion, you aren't going to gain any ground.

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[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Your rejoinder to the coherent thesis was "nuh uh" and "robot bad" so i think I'm just gonna point and laugh now, you dumb fuck.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Sounds about your speed: vague, easily diaprovsble claims, make up arguments for others because you can't defend your own incorrect opinions or counter theirs, and then retreat.

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[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

Okay then disprove them?

Jesus the amount of projection going on could power a small continent if properly captured.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Which one?

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[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

Self-hating bot? That's a new one. Lmao I just saw that you referenced the Whigs as liberals. You literally proved my point before this even started. Google Edmund Burke you absolute shit-stain.

Blocked.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

"A new one" that you made up instead of accurately addressing my points.

And then you pretended I wrote something I didn't.

Scurry away.

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