Texas State Rep. James Talarico using biblical scripture to tear down conservative Christian arguments

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[–] 174 points 2 years ago (7 children)

This is why it's really handy to be well versed in the Bible -- it's very easy to throw their shit right back in their face. Know their bible better than they do.

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  • [–] 135 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Matthew 5:17-9 says that all old testament laws still apply

    Matthew 6:5 says not to pray in public or flaunt your religion.

    Matthew 19:24 says that no Christian should have any disposable income.

    Timothy 2:12 says that Christian women may not proselytize

    Peter 2:18 says The Christ himself condones slavery

    Psalm 137:9 says that those who kill babies in the name of the Lord are glorified for they are exterminating the next generation of "Our Enemies"

    There are a ton more. I'll add as I remember them.

    Numbers 5:11-31 is the only time that the entirety of The Bible or The Apocrypha even mention abortion. Those verses tell you how to perform an abortion. (In possibly the worst way, and for the worst reasons imaginable) This literally makes The Bible Pro-Choice.

    I'm intentionally ignoring the incest and lots of logical holes in the Old Testament as much as I can, because I want to poke holes in what these modern "Christians" believe.

    Edit 3: Oh! Oh! This shit contains so many verses to deploy against evangelicals. http://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm sure the answer would be: "Yeah but they couldn't have foreseen how the modern world works 2000 years ago. We need to adapt to the ti... Hang on did you say we can have slaves again?"

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  • [+] 66 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I was arguing about locking immigrates in cages and separating families with a religious person and told them the verse

    When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born.

    He then told me that was a mistranslation. That foreigner really meant someone from the next town over, but not from another country.

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  • [–] 63 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Leviticus 19:33-34 "When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God."

    Ah yes, the town of Egypt. Just a short couple of hours by horse.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Know their bible better than they do.

    They interpret it selectively, just like their version of the Constitution that begins and ends with the Second Amendment.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is the problem. It doesn't matter. For every interpretation one may have, someone else has an interpretation somewhere else in the scriptures that says the exact opposite according to them. The book itself is such a giant catchall for any motive one may have it's almost comical at this point. Virtually anyone can use it as evidence of support for or against just about anything.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And their version of the Second Amendment is four words long.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    From the article I'm not seeing what part of the bible they actually used against them. What did I miss?

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Matthew 6:5-6 "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

    It's the foundation of his argument that Christians shouldn't impose religion upon others but should lead by example.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    As a Christian, I agree with this idea and I also find the proposed law rather silly because it's the same kind of virtue signaling that conservatives love to accuse liberals of.

    What I don't understand is why the article considers this "standing up for LGBT+ rights". Can anyone help me with that?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    More knowledge is always a good thing but religious texts can and are twisted to suit an agenda all the time. We can't go back and ask the authors for clarification so we're left arguing about what a person believes the text means.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That just leads to another debate of who wrote the damn thing.

    Hint: It wasn't God or Jesus, but it won't stop them from guessing those two first.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    The earliest text in the New Testament was written around 50 years after Christ's death. There's no definitive account of his life because the accounts in the gospels are sometimes contradictory. It's messy, almost like it was written by a bunch of people recounting stories they heard rather than it being the literal word of God.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    But they (the right) usually quote it by removing all context and by only using snippets of the text so there's no interpretation required, in which case it's very easy to retort by using the same tactic or by quoting the whole passage.

    Heck, just telling them that "it's written all over the place in the Bible that only God has the ability to judge" takes care of most of their message.

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