▲ 450 ▼ Meat processor ordered to pay fines after teen lost hand in grinder (apnews.com) submitted 3 years ago by tintory@lemm.ee to c/politics@lemmy.world 43 comments fedilink hide all child comments The fine is $1,143 BTW
[+] downpunxx@kbin.social 19 points 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Michigan is a Republican shithole state? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] downpunxx@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) you're absolutely correct, no, it isn't which makes this worse, i can't read anymore fucking articles about how child labor is becoming the norm again, on top of everything else, it's all just too much so i assumed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 3 points 3 years ago FWIW, the incident in question happened in 2019, so it's not anything happening due to the current climate. And while the owner should have ensured the kid had a work permit, the kid was already a high school dropout, so might not have had any way to get a work permit legally anyway. At some point, people still need to eat. I've read several articles at this point and it feels like there's some grey in here somewhere that I just don't know enough to be able to form an opinion on. While this is pretty awful and shouldn't have happened, I don't think I'd advocate that a 17 year old shouldn't be allowed to have any job at all. I think they should be paid normal minimum wage, same as any other employee, and there should be jobs that they can't do due to age (such as this one), but I wouldn't stop it altogether. That said, I'm completely fine with increasing the fines for employing a minor in a dangerous profession though, which is apparently the charge that the owner plead guilty to. Fines for employers who break the law should be increased in general, especially when it puts workers in danger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Michigan is a Republican shithole state? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] downpunxx@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) you're absolutely correct, no, it isn't which makes this worse, i can't read anymore fucking articles about how child labor is becoming the norm again, on top of everything else, it's all just too much so i assumed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 3 points 3 years ago FWIW, the incident in question happened in 2019, so it's not anything happening due to the current climate. And while the owner should have ensured the kid had a work permit, the kid was already a high school dropout, so might not have had any way to get a work permit legally anyway. At some point, people still need to eat. I've read several articles at this point and it feels like there's some grey in here somewhere that I just don't know enough to be able to form an opinion on. While this is pretty awful and shouldn't have happened, I don't think I'd advocate that a 17 year old shouldn't be allowed to have any job at all. I think they should be paid normal minimum wage, same as any other employee, and there should be jobs that they can't do due to age (such as this one), but I wouldn't stop it altogether. That said, I'm completely fine with increasing the fines for employing a minor in a dangerous profession though, which is apparently the charge that the owner plead guilty to. Fines for employers who break the law should be increased in general, especially when it puts workers in danger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) you're absolutely correct, no, it isn't which makes this worse, i can't read anymore fucking articles about how child labor is becoming the norm again, on top of everything else, it's all just too much so i assumed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 3 points 3 years ago FWIW, the incident in question happened in 2019, so it's not anything happening due to the current climate. And while the owner should have ensured the kid had a work permit, the kid was already a high school dropout, so might not have had any way to get a work permit legally anyway. At some point, people still need to eat. I've read several articles at this point and it feels like there's some grey in here somewhere that I just don't know enough to be able to form an opinion on. While this is pretty awful and shouldn't have happened, I don't think I'd advocate that a 17 year old shouldn't be allowed to have any job at all. I think they should be paid normal minimum wage, same as any other employee, and there should be jobs that they can't do due to age (such as this one), but I wouldn't stop it altogether. That said, I'm completely fine with increasing the fines for employing a minor in a dangerous profession though, which is apparently the charge that the owner plead guilty to. Fines for employers who break the law should be increased in general, especially when it puts workers in danger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 3 points 3 years ago FWIW, the incident in question happened in 2019, so it's not anything happening due to the current climate. And while the owner should have ensured the kid had a work permit, the kid was already a high school dropout, so might not have had any way to get a work permit legally anyway. At some point, people still need to eat. I've read several articles at this point and it feels like there's some grey in here somewhere that I just don't know enough to be able to form an opinion on. While this is pretty awful and shouldn't have happened, I don't think I'd advocate that a 17 year old shouldn't be allowed to have any job at all. I think they should be paid normal minimum wage, same as any other employee, and there should be jobs that they can't do due to age (such as this one), but I wouldn't stop it altogether. That said, I'm completely fine with increasing the fines for employing a minor in a dangerous profession though, which is apparently the charge that the owner plead guilty to. Fines for employers who break the law should be increased in general, especially when it puts workers in danger. permalink fedilink source parent