▲ 174 ▼ Jill Stein formally launches 2024 White House bid as Green party candidate (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/news@lemmy.world 298 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] flta@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) This is implying Jill Stein doesn’t know she is helping Republicans with her failed 3rd party run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MedicatedMaybe@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Girl is getting paid to help them for sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -7 points 2 years ago do you have some proof of that? permalink fedilink source parent [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) She had a successful career as a physician so no, you're making that up. Anyone who is saying she has money that's where it came from. You all have no evidence she's getting Russian money, it's pathetic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... are you saying that doctors all feel they're rich enough and don't ever lust for more money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Where's your evidence? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) My evidence of what? I asked if that's what you were saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Evidence that Jill Stein is taking money from Putin, it's a ridiculous claim with no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please quote me making that claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your white knight ass galloped in to defend that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) When did I defend anything? Please quote my defense. Unless you're lying of course. Are you lying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) LMAO you can't even troll effectively permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You think "rich people don't do immoral things for money, because they're already rich" don't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago No, they just have literally no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) she's not helping republicans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Pulling the environmentalist voters away from Biden doesn't help his opponents? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) the greens are his opponent too. a vote for a green candidate doesn't help the republicans or the democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And who do you think might consider voting for a Green candidate? Certainly not republicans. There is significant overlap between the democracy crowd and the environmentalism crowd. Thus, a significant chunk of green voters would otherwise be democratic voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) then i guess the democrats better shift to capture some of them green voters if they want them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That attitude is precisely why we were stuck with Trump from 2017-2020, and why the country is much worse off now because of it. I voted for Gary Johnson is 2016 and let me tell you, I learned from my mistake. It seems you have yet to learn that lesson. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ? you think the democrats should be able to enter office just because you don't like donald trump? fuck that. if they want my vote they better come and get it. i have an enumrable list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) The fact that you keep changing the subject demonstrates that you are not interested in arguing in good faith. The correct course of action is to vote in such a way that your vote influences the outcome positively. By voting for a 3rd party candidate, you are choosing to not influence the result, which is irresponsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't changed the subject at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MedicatedMaybe@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Girl is getting paid to help them for sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -7 points 2 years ago do you have some proof of that? permalink fedilink source parent [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) She had a successful career as a physician so no, you're making that up. Anyone who is saying she has money that's where it came from. You all have no evidence she's getting Russian money, it's pathetic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... are you saying that doctors all feel they're rich enough and don't ever lust for more money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Where's your evidence? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) My evidence of what? I asked if that's what you were saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Evidence that Jill Stein is taking money from Putin, it's a ridiculous claim with no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please quote me making that claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your white knight ass galloped in to defend that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) When did I defend anything? Please quote my defense. Unless you're lying of course. Are you lying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) LMAO you can't even troll effectively permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You think "rich people don't do immoral things for money, because they're already rich" don't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago No, they just have literally no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -7 points 2 years ago do you have some proof of that? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) She had a successful career as a physician so no, you're making that up. Anyone who is saying she has money that's where it came from. You all have no evidence she's getting Russian money, it's pathetic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... are you saying that doctors all feel they're rich enough and don't ever lust for more money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Where's your evidence? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) My evidence of what? I asked if that's what you were saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Evidence that Jill Stein is taking money from Putin, it's a ridiculous claim with no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please quote me making that claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your white knight ass galloped in to defend that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) When did I defend anything? Please quote my defense. Unless you're lying of course. Are you lying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) LMAO you can't even troll effectively permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You think "rich people don't do immoral things for money, because they're already rich" don't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago No, they just have literally no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry... are you saying that doctors all feel they're rich enough and don't ever lust for more money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Where's your evidence? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) My evidence of what? I asked if that's what you were saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Evidence that Jill Stein is taking money from Putin, it's a ridiculous claim with no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please quote me making that claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your white knight ass galloped in to defend that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) When did I defend anything? Please quote my defense. Unless you're lying of course. Are you lying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) LMAO you can't even troll effectively permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Where's your evidence? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) My evidence of what? I asked if that's what you were saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Evidence that Jill Stein is taking money from Putin, it's a ridiculous claim with no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please quote me making that claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your white knight ass galloped in to defend that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) When did I defend anything? Please quote my defense. Unless you're lying of course. Are you lying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) LMAO you can't even troll effectively permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) My evidence of what? I asked if that's what you were saying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Evidence that Jill Stein is taking money from Putin, it's a ridiculous claim with no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please quote me making that claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your white knight ass galloped in to defend that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) When did I defend anything? Please quote my defense. Unless you're lying of course. Are you lying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) LMAO you can't even troll effectively permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Evidence that Jill Stein is taking money from Putin, it's a ridiculous claim with no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please quote me making that claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your white knight ass galloped in to defend that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) When did I defend anything? Please quote my defense. Unless you're lying of course. Are you lying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) LMAO you can't even troll effectively permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please quote me making that claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your white knight ass galloped in to defend that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) When did I defend anything? Please quote my defense. Unless you're lying of course. Are you lying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) LMAO you can't even troll effectively permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your white knight ass galloped in to defend that point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) When did I defend anything? Please quote my defense. Unless you're lying of course. Are you lying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) LMAO you can't even troll effectively permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) When did I defend anything? Please quote my defense. Unless you're lying of course. Are you lying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) LMAO you can't even troll effectively permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) LMAO you can't even troll effectively permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You think "rich people don't do immoral things for money, because they're already rich" don't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago No, they just have literally no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago No, they just have literally no evidence. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) she's not helping republicans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Pulling the environmentalist voters away from Biden doesn't help his opponents? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) the greens are his opponent too. a vote for a green candidate doesn't help the republicans or the democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And who do you think might consider voting for a Green candidate? Certainly not republicans. There is significant overlap between the democracy crowd and the environmentalism crowd. Thus, a significant chunk of green voters would otherwise be democratic voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) then i guess the democrats better shift to capture some of them green voters if they want them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That attitude is precisely why we were stuck with Trump from 2017-2020, and why the country is much worse off now because of it. I voted for Gary Johnson is 2016 and let me tell you, I learned from my mistake. It seems you have yet to learn that lesson. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ? you think the democrats should be able to enter office just because you don't like donald trump? fuck that. if they want my vote they better come and get it. i have an enumrable list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) The fact that you keep changing the subject demonstrates that you are not interested in arguing in good faith. The correct course of action is to vote in such a way that your vote influences the outcome positively. By voting for a 3rd party candidate, you are choosing to not influence the result, which is irresponsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't changed the subject at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Pulling the environmentalist voters away from Biden doesn't help his opponents? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) the greens are his opponent too. a vote for a green candidate doesn't help the republicans or the democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And who do you think might consider voting for a Green candidate? Certainly not republicans. There is significant overlap between the democracy crowd and the environmentalism crowd. Thus, a significant chunk of green voters would otherwise be democratic voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) then i guess the democrats better shift to capture some of them green voters if they want them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That attitude is precisely why we were stuck with Trump from 2017-2020, and why the country is much worse off now because of it. I voted for Gary Johnson is 2016 and let me tell you, I learned from my mistake. It seems you have yet to learn that lesson. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ? you think the democrats should be able to enter office just because you don't like donald trump? fuck that. if they want my vote they better come and get it. i have an enumrable list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) The fact that you keep changing the subject demonstrates that you are not interested in arguing in good faith. The correct course of action is to vote in such a way that your vote influences the outcome positively. By voting for a 3rd party candidate, you are choosing to not influence the result, which is irresponsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't changed the subject at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) the greens are his opponent too. a vote for a green candidate doesn't help the republicans or the democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And who do you think might consider voting for a Green candidate? Certainly not republicans. There is significant overlap between the democracy crowd and the environmentalism crowd. Thus, a significant chunk of green voters would otherwise be democratic voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) then i guess the democrats better shift to capture some of them green voters if they want them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That attitude is precisely why we were stuck with Trump from 2017-2020, and why the country is much worse off now because of it. I voted for Gary Johnson is 2016 and let me tell you, I learned from my mistake. It seems you have yet to learn that lesson. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ? you think the democrats should be able to enter office just because you don't like donald trump? fuck that. if they want my vote they better come and get it. i have an enumrable list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) The fact that you keep changing the subject demonstrates that you are not interested in arguing in good faith. The correct course of action is to vote in such a way that your vote influences the outcome positively. By voting for a 3rd party candidate, you are choosing to not influence the result, which is irresponsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't changed the subject at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And who do you think might consider voting for a Green candidate? Certainly not republicans. There is significant overlap between the democracy crowd and the environmentalism crowd. Thus, a significant chunk of green voters would otherwise be democratic voters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) then i guess the democrats better shift to capture some of them green voters if they want them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That attitude is precisely why we were stuck with Trump from 2017-2020, and why the country is much worse off now because of it. I voted for Gary Johnson is 2016 and let me tell you, I learned from my mistake. It seems you have yet to learn that lesson. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ? you think the democrats should be able to enter office just because you don't like donald trump? fuck that. if they want my vote they better come and get it. i have an enumrable list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) The fact that you keep changing the subject demonstrates that you are not interested in arguing in good faith. The correct course of action is to vote in such a way that your vote influences the outcome positively. By voting for a 3rd party candidate, you are choosing to not influence the result, which is irresponsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't changed the subject at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) then i guess the democrats better shift to capture some of them green voters if they want them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That attitude is precisely why we were stuck with Trump from 2017-2020, and why the country is much worse off now because of it. I voted for Gary Johnson is 2016 and let me tell you, I learned from my mistake. It seems you have yet to learn that lesson. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ? you think the democrats should be able to enter office just because you don't like donald trump? fuck that. if they want my vote they better come and get it. i have an enumrable list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) The fact that you keep changing the subject demonstrates that you are not interested in arguing in good faith. The correct course of action is to vote in such a way that your vote influences the outcome positively. By voting for a 3rd party candidate, you are choosing to not influence the result, which is irresponsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't changed the subject at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) That attitude is precisely why we were stuck with Trump from 2017-2020, and why the country is much worse off now because of it. I voted for Gary Johnson is 2016 and let me tell you, I learned from my mistake. It seems you have yet to learn that lesson. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ? you think the democrats should be able to enter office just because you don't like donald trump? fuck that. if they want my vote they better come and get it. i have an enumrable list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) The fact that you keep changing the subject demonstrates that you are not interested in arguing in good faith. The correct course of action is to vote in such a way that your vote influences the outcome positively. By voting for a 3rd party candidate, you are choosing to not influence the result, which is irresponsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't changed the subject at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) ? you think the democrats should be able to enter office just because you don't like donald trump? fuck that. if they want my vote they better come and get it. i have an enumrable list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) The fact that you keep changing the subject demonstrates that you are not interested in arguing in good faith. The correct course of action is to vote in such a way that your vote influences the outcome positively. By voting for a 3rd party candidate, you are choosing to not influence the result, which is irresponsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't changed the subject at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) The fact that you keep changing the subject demonstrates that you are not interested in arguing in good faith. The correct course of action is to vote in such a way that your vote influences the outcome positively. By voting for a 3rd party candidate, you are choosing to not influence the result, which is irresponsible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't changed the subject at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't changed the subject at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I'm not being evasive permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago it's not whataboutism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago doubling down doesn't change the facts permalink fedilink source parent