▲ 38 ▼ Nearly two-fifths of robberies in London last year were for mobile phones (www.theguardian.com) submitted 3 years ago by thehatfox@lemmy.world to c/unitedkingdom@feddit.uk 29 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (4 children) I would be curious to learn more, as this is a much touted security feature. If it's that easy to bypass then we need to understand the limitations. Do you have any more information on this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] gdrhnvfhj@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago https://yewtu.be/search?q=fpr+unlock+Android+13 permalink fedilink source parent [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Not an expert in any way, but I would assume it is similar to having physical access to a computer. You would not be able to get into the existing device or retrieve data, but if you have stolen it and just to use the device, there are numerous tools to allow side loading of new blobs, that will bypass any restrictions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago In theory this is true, in practice the protections Apple puts in place tend to put even games consoles to shame. That plus the quick turnaround of iPhone hardware means by the time it is cracked, it was already obselete permalink fedilink source parent [–] 520@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) The usual tactic is to send a phishing text to a number that calls it pretending to be Apple. They then get your Apple ID credentials and use that to unlock the device. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blake@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) As usual, people are the weakest link in security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Exactly. The protections on the iPhone themselves are actually very strong for the time the phone released in. Unless you've got NSA-level hardware hackers in your org, this is by far your best bet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago I mean yeah, obviously Apple isn't going to be able protect you much against a state-sponsored threat with their own private list of zero days, or Apple itself, but right now that's a small amount of people either are truly interested in fucking over. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) How do you send a phishing text to a phone you have stolen? The owner would either not get the text, or get it via iMessage which the response wouldn't appear on the stolen phone. I'm not following this tactic, so I'm obviously missing something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) The owner tries to call the number from another phone, usually a mobile. The hope is that the phone was misplaced and not stolen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) So the owner calls the phone, which is answered by the thief who pretends to be Apple? Interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* They don't necessarily have to answer. They can just note the number that appears on-screen and text it later from a different device. Usually the next step for the owner is to try get into their Apple ID to access the lost phone functions. That's where the texts come in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gdrhnvfhj@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 3 years ago https://yewtu.be/search?q=fpr+unlock+Android+13 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Not an expert in any way, but I would assume it is similar to having physical access to a computer. You would not be able to get into the existing device or retrieve data, but if you have stolen it and just to use the device, there are numerous tools to allow side loading of new blobs, that will bypass any restrictions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago In theory this is true, in practice the protections Apple puts in place tend to put even games consoles to shame. That plus the quick turnaround of iPhone hardware means by the time it is cracked, it was already obselete permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 520@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago In theory this is true, in practice the protections Apple puts in place tend to put even games consoles to shame. That plus the quick turnaround of iPhone hardware means by the time it is cracked, it was already obselete permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 520@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) The usual tactic is to send a phishing text to a number that calls it pretending to be Apple. They then get your Apple ID credentials and use that to unlock the device. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blake@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) As usual, people are the weakest link in security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Exactly. The protections on the iPhone themselves are actually very strong for the time the phone released in. Unless you've got NSA-level hardware hackers in your org, this is by far your best bet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago I mean yeah, obviously Apple isn't going to be able protect you much against a state-sponsored threat with their own private list of zero days, or Apple itself, but right now that's a small amount of people either are truly interested in fucking over. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) How do you send a phishing text to a phone you have stolen? The owner would either not get the text, or get it via iMessage which the response wouldn't appear on the stolen phone. I'm not following this tactic, so I'm obviously missing something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) The owner tries to call the number from another phone, usually a mobile. The hope is that the phone was misplaced and not stolen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) So the owner calls the phone, which is answered by the thief who pretends to be Apple? Interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* They don't necessarily have to answer. They can just note the number that appears on-screen and text it later from a different device. Usually the next step for the owner is to try get into their Apple ID to access the lost phone functions. That's where the texts come in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blake@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) As usual, people are the weakest link in security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Exactly. The protections on the iPhone themselves are actually very strong for the time the phone released in. Unless you've got NSA-level hardware hackers in your org, this is by far your best bet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago I mean yeah, obviously Apple isn't going to be able protect you much against a state-sponsored threat with their own private list of zero days, or Apple itself, but right now that's a small amount of people either are truly interested in fucking over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 520@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Exactly. The protections on the iPhone themselves are actually very strong for the time the phone released in. Unless you've got NSA-level hardware hackers in your org, this is by far your best bet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago I mean yeah, obviously Apple isn't going to be able protect you much against a state-sponsored threat with their own private list of zero days, or Apple itself, but right now that's a small amount of people either are truly interested in fucking over. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago I mean yeah, obviously Apple isn't going to be able protect you much against a state-sponsored threat with their own private list of zero days, or Apple itself, but right now that's a small amount of people either are truly interested in fucking over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago I mean yeah, obviously Apple isn't going to be able protect you much against a state-sponsored threat with their own private list of zero days, or Apple itself, but right now that's a small amount of people either are truly interested in fucking over. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) How do you send a phishing text to a phone you have stolen? The owner would either not get the text, or get it via iMessage which the response wouldn't appear on the stolen phone. I'm not following this tactic, so I'm obviously missing something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) The owner tries to call the number from another phone, usually a mobile. The hope is that the phone was misplaced and not stolen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) So the owner calls the phone, which is answered by the thief who pretends to be Apple? Interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* They don't necessarily have to answer. They can just note the number that appears on-screen and text it later from a different device. Usually the next step for the owner is to try get into their Apple ID to access the lost phone functions. That's where the texts come in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 520@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) The owner tries to call the number from another phone, usually a mobile. The hope is that the phone was misplaced and not stolen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) So the owner calls the phone, which is answered by the thief who pretends to be Apple? Interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* They don't necessarily have to answer. They can just note the number that appears on-screen and text it later from a different device. Usually the next step for the owner is to try get into their Apple ID to access the lost phone functions. That's where the texts come in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) So the owner calls the phone, which is answered by the thief who pretends to be Apple? Interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* They don't necessarily have to answer. They can just note the number that appears on-screen and text it later from a different device. Usually the next step for the owner is to try get into their Apple ID to access the lost phone functions. That's where the texts come in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago* They don't necessarily have to answer. They can just note the number that appears on-screen and text it later from a different device. Usually the next step for the owner is to try get into their Apple ID to access the lost phone functions. That's where the texts come in. permalink fedilink source parent