β² 136 βΌ So proud (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by mod_pp@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 55 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 89 points 3 years ago (1 child) when you do it this way, it's foss, when you do it the other way around, it's piracy society permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] squaresinger@feddit.de -26 points 3 years ago (2 children) And if you do it the correct way it's WSL2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 72 points 3 years ago (1 child) the correct way is to install linux on bare metal and not use windows at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] squaresinger@feddit.de -35 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The correct way to install Linux on Windows is to install it on bare metal? Looks like you failed the reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ReCursing@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the correct way in general is to not install windows at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Unless you need something that's Windows-only. And dual-booting is the worst possible option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Single gpu passthrough with qemu vm, ez. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) qemu? Doesn't that totally kill all performance? Also, unless you have massice performance margins, running two OSes at the same time will have a serious impact on performance, especially if Windows is the OS that needs the performance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) not if host is any normal linux distro (much lighter than windows) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Have you tried KDE? Also, regardless of whether the Linux distro is light or not, you still run an additional OS next to it. And even hardware-accelerated virtualisation is not without performance penalty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no. rn i'm running debian host with mint guest and win10 guest. on host htop load average is below 2, the bigger issue is ram, at about 16gb used. as it happens, ram is much more easily expanded even on laptops than any other potential bottleneck causing hardware. i've never been short of performance with this setup, even when using old laptop with 12 gb ram and four cores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) then you put it in box and make passthrough work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Stuff needs to be worth the effort. Most people run an OS to get specific tasks done, not the other way round. Sure, you can spend days getting something to work. Or you just don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago i'm not running windows on bare metal on principle permalink fedilink source parent [β] dan@lemmy.fdr8.us 19 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't usually downvote on Lemmy, but this is a real test of willpower. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.org 3 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] squaresinger@feddit.de -26 points 3 years ago (2 children) And if you do it the correct way it's WSL2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 72 points 3 years ago (1 child) the correct way is to install linux on bare metal and not use windows at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] squaresinger@feddit.de -35 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The correct way to install Linux on Windows is to install it on bare metal? Looks like you failed the reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ReCursing@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the correct way in general is to not install windows at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Unless you need something that's Windows-only. And dual-booting is the worst possible option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Single gpu passthrough with qemu vm, ez. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) qemu? Doesn't that totally kill all performance? Also, unless you have massice performance margins, running two OSes at the same time will have a serious impact on performance, especially if Windows is the OS that needs the performance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) not if host is any normal linux distro (much lighter than windows) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Have you tried KDE? Also, regardless of whether the Linux distro is light or not, you still run an additional OS next to it. And even hardware-accelerated virtualisation is not without performance penalty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no. rn i'm running debian host with mint guest and win10 guest. on host htop load average is below 2, the bigger issue is ram, at about 16gb used. as it happens, ram is much more easily expanded even on laptops than any other potential bottleneck causing hardware. i've never been short of performance with this setup, even when using old laptop with 12 gb ram and four cores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) then you put it in box and make passthrough work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Stuff needs to be worth the effort. Most people run an OS to get specific tasks done, not the other way round. Sure, you can spend days getting something to work. Or you just don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago i'm not running windows on bare metal on principle permalink fedilink source parent [β] dan@lemmy.fdr8.us 19 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't usually downvote on Lemmy, but this is a real test of willpower. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.org 3 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 72 points 3 years ago (1 child) the correct way is to install linux on bare metal and not use windows at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] squaresinger@feddit.de -35 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The correct way to install Linux on Windows is to install it on bare metal? Looks like you failed the reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ReCursing@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the correct way in general is to not install windows at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Unless you need something that's Windows-only. And dual-booting is the worst possible option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Single gpu passthrough with qemu vm, ez. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) qemu? Doesn't that totally kill all performance? Also, unless you have massice performance margins, running two OSes at the same time will have a serious impact on performance, especially if Windows is the OS that needs the performance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) not if host is any normal linux distro (much lighter than windows) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Have you tried KDE? Also, regardless of whether the Linux distro is light or not, you still run an additional OS next to it. And even hardware-accelerated virtualisation is not without performance penalty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no. rn i'm running debian host with mint guest and win10 guest. on host htop load average is below 2, the bigger issue is ram, at about 16gb used. as it happens, ram is much more easily expanded even on laptops than any other potential bottleneck causing hardware. i've never been short of performance with this setup, even when using old laptop with 12 gb ram and four cores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) then you put it in box and make passthrough work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Stuff needs to be worth the effort. Most people run an OS to get specific tasks done, not the other way round. Sure, you can spend days getting something to work. Or you just don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago i'm not running windows on bare metal on principle permalink fedilink source parent
[+] squaresinger@feddit.de -35 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The correct way to install Linux on Windows is to install it on bare metal? Looks like you failed the reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ReCursing@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the correct way in general is to not install windows at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Unless you need something that's Windows-only. And dual-booting is the worst possible option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Single gpu passthrough with qemu vm, ez. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) qemu? Doesn't that totally kill all performance? Also, unless you have massice performance margins, running two OSes at the same time will have a serious impact on performance, especially if Windows is the OS that needs the performance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) not if host is any normal linux distro (much lighter than windows) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Have you tried KDE? Also, regardless of whether the Linux distro is light or not, you still run an additional OS next to it. And even hardware-accelerated virtualisation is not without performance penalty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no. rn i'm running debian host with mint guest and win10 guest. on host htop load average is below 2, the bigger issue is ram, at about 16gb used. as it happens, ram is much more easily expanded even on laptops than any other potential bottleneck causing hardware. i've never been short of performance with this setup, even when using old laptop with 12 gb ram and four cores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) then you put it in box and make passthrough work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Stuff needs to be worth the effort. Most people run an OS to get specific tasks done, not the other way round. Sure, you can spend days getting something to work. Or you just don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago i'm not running windows on bare metal on principle permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ReCursing@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the correct way in general is to not install windows at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Unless you need something that's Windows-only. And dual-booting is the worst possible option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Single gpu passthrough with qemu vm, ez. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) qemu? Doesn't that totally kill all performance? Also, unless you have massice performance margins, running two OSes at the same time will have a serious impact on performance, especially if Windows is the OS that needs the performance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) not if host is any normal linux distro (much lighter than windows) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Have you tried KDE? Also, regardless of whether the Linux distro is light or not, you still run an additional OS next to it. And even hardware-accelerated virtualisation is not without performance penalty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no. rn i'm running debian host with mint guest and win10 guest. on host htop load average is below 2, the bigger issue is ram, at about 16gb used. as it happens, ram is much more easily expanded even on laptops than any other potential bottleneck causing hardware. i've never been short of performance with this setup, even when using old laptop with 12 gb ram and four cores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) then you put it in box and make passthrough work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Stuff needs to be worth the effort. Most people run an OS to get specific tasks done, not the other way round. Sure, you can spend days getting something to work. Or you just don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago i'm not running windows on bare metal on principle permalink fedilink source parent
[β] squaresinger@feddit.de -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Unless you need something that's Windows-only. And dual-booting is the worst possible option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Single gpu passthrough with qemu vm, ez. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) qemu? Doesn't that totally kill all performance? Also, unless you have massice performance margins, running two OSes at the same time will have a serious impact on performance, especially if Windows is the OS that needs the performance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) not if host is any normal linux distro (much lighter than windows) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Have you tried KDE? Also, regardless of whether the Linux distro is light or not, you still run an additional OS next to it. And even hardware-accelerated virtualisation is not without performance penalty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no. rn i'm running debian host with mint guest and win10 guest. on host htop load average is below 2, the bigger issue is ram, at about 16gb used. as it happens, ram is much more easily expanded even on laptops than any other potential bottleneck causing hardware. i've never been short of performance with this setup, even when using old laptop with 12 gb ram and four cores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) then you put it in box and make passthrough work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Stuff needs to be worth the effort. Most people run an OS to get specific tasks done, not the other way round. Sure, you can spend days getting something to work. Or you just don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago i'm not running windows on bare metal on principle permalink fedilink source parent
[β] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Single gpu passthrough with qemu vm, ez. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) qemu? Doesn't that totally kill all performance? Also, unless you have massice performance margins, running two OSes at the same time will have a serious impact on performance, especially if Windows is the OS that needs the performance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) not if host is any normal linux distro (much lighter than windows) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Have you tried KDE? Also, regardless of whether the Linux distro is light or not, you still run an additional OS next to it. And even hardware-accelerated virtualisation is not without performance penalty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no. rn i'm running debian host with mint guest and win10 guest. on host htop load average is below 2, the bigger issue is ram, at about 16gb used. as it happens, ram is much more easily expanded even on laptops than any other potential bottleneck causing hardware. i've never been short of performance with this setup, even when using old laptop with 12 gb ram and four cores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent
[β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) qemu? Doesn't that totally kill all performance? Also, unless you have massice performance margins, running two OSes at the same time will have a serious impact on performance, especially if Windows is the OS that needs the performance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) not if host is any normal linux distro (much lighter than windows) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Have you tried KDE? Also, regardless of whether the Linux distro is light or not, you still run an additional OS next to it. And even hardware-accelerated virtualisation is not without performance penalty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no. rn i'm running debian host with mint guest and win10 guest. on host htop load average is below 2, the bigger issue is ram, at about 16gb used. as it happens, ram is much more easily expanded even on laptops than any other potential bottleneck causing hardware. i've never been short of performance with this setup, even when using old laptop with 12 gb ram and four cores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent
[β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) not if host is any normal linux distro (much lighter than windows) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Have you tried KDE? Also, regardless of whether the Linux distro is light or not, you still run an additional OS next to it. And even hardware-accelerated virtualisation is not without performance penalty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no. rn i'm running debian host with mint guest and win10 guest. on host htop load average is below 2, the bigger issue is ram, at about 16gb used. as it happens, ram is much more easily expanded even on laptops than any other potential bottleneck causing hardware. i've never been short of performance with this setup, even when using old laptop with 12 gb ram and four cores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent
[β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Have you tried KDE? Also, regardless of whether the Linux distro is light or not, you still run an additional OS next to it. And even hardware-accelerated virtualisation is not without performance penalty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no. rn i'm running debian host with mint guest and win10 guest. on host htop load average is below 2, the bigger issue is ram, at about 16gb used. as it happens, ram is much more easily expanded even on laptops than any other potential bottleneck causing hardware. i've never been short of performance with this setup, even when using old laptop with 12 gb ram and four cores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent
[β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no. rn i'm running debian host with mint guest and win10 guest. on host htop load average is below 2, the bigger issue is ram, at about 16gb used. as it happens, ram is much more easily expanded even on laptops than any other potential bottleneck causing hardware. i've never been short of performance with this setup, even when using old laptop with 12 gb ram and four cores permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent
[β] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* Ok, now have you tried doing anything on the Win10 guest that actually requires performance? E.g. playing games permalink fedilink source parent
[β] skillissuer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) then you put it in box and make passthrough work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Stuff needs to be worth the effort. Most people run an OS to get specific tasks done, not the other way round. Sure, you can spend days getting something to work. Or you just don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago i'm not running windows on bare metal on principle permalink fedilink source parent
[β] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Stuff needs to be worth the effort. Most people run an OS to get specific tasks done, not the other way round. Sure, you can spend days getting something to work. Or you just don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] skillissuer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago i'm not running windows on bare metal on principle permalink fedilink source parent
[β] skillissuer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago i'm not running windows on bare metal on principle permalink fedilink source parent
[β] dan@lemmy.fdr8.us 19 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't usually downvote on Lemmy, but this is a real test of willpower. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.org 3 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] CaptainAniki@lemmy.flight-crew.org 3 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
