▲ 267 ▼ In Wake Of 18 Murdered In Yet Another Mass Shooting, NRA-Funded Federal Agency Trains Children To Shoot Guns (deadline.com) submitted 2 years ago by ZeroCool@feddit.ch to c/news@lemmy.world 102 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) No that would be factually untrue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TWeaK@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Except for all the parts in the world that have proven it true. No, you should just keep your head in the sand and rely purely on hope that someone you know won't be killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) No that’s why I teach them gun safety and marksmanship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Children shouldn't be using guns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Children shouldn’t be using guns without adult supervision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Young children shouldn't be using guns at all. Teenagers should only be using guns at authorised shooting ranges with direct 1 to 1 supervision with a trained and certified staff member - not just any adult or parent at home. There is no need to play with guns, and the risk of harm to others is grossly disproportionate to your desire to have a bit of fun. Your freedom for fun impinges on the freedoms of others to merely be alive and healthy, thus your freedom should be heavily restrained in this instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) My 2A freedom doesn’t impinge upon you in any way shape or form. You can’t preemptively charge people for crimes you’ve imagined. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Statiscally, there is a significant possibility that it will. In many states, stand your ground laws would let you get away with killing someone even if they were unarmed and not physically violent towards you. No one's saying you should be charged with a crime, however measures need to be taken to ensure public safety overall. The 2nd Amendment shouldn't supercede the right to life, and yet it directly facilitates loss of life. How many mass shootings do other Western countries have? What's different in how they handle guns under law? The flaws are glaringly obvious, yet you cling to them out of nothing but pure selfishness. You don't need guns, you want them, but people need to live and are dying because of how prevalent guns are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice. However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important? Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes? Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it. It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Why not? Kids hunt where I live. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (5 children) Guns are meant to kill at a distance without your opponent touching you or possibly even seeing you, they are fundamentally a cowardly weapon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fleabomber@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) The phrase "never bring a gun to a knife fight" is referring to intelligence not bravery. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago How about "idioms don't dictate real life and people are dieing", does that jive with you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you prefer it when people kill other people up close? That is somehow brave? You sound psychotic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd rather they didn't kill each other at all, it's weird that you're so defensive about being able to murder people easier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) That isn’t at all what I stated or implied. You are the one who thought it was brave to kill people close up. Maybe you should spend some time working on yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Lol, that isn't at all what I stated or implied. You're the one who thought it was brave to kill people from far away. Have fun with your guns. Coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s because you changed the text of your earlier post. I never stated it was brave to kill anyone at any distance. You seem to be a craven hypocritical anti-2A nut job. You are the very embodiment of why I choose to keep my firearms and support the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago The fuck? I absolutely didn't change the text. I'm just a regular guy who is fed up with the gun lobby bullshit in this country. Kindly go fuck yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Your perspective is incredibly narrow. Must be nice to never have to worry about defending yourself from attackers who overpower you or who have weapons. Definitely all those black people with guns facing down the racists with guns at the Tulsa Race Massacre should've been brave and fought fisticuffs, 21st century style. /S (Yes I'm well aware their homes and businesses were burned to the ground despite attempts to defend themselves). The Black Panthers were just cowards. /S The trans folks at Tenacious Unicorn Ranch definitely were cowards for not facing bigots threatening to kill them with fists and harsh words. /S permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] loobkoob@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Must be nice to never have to worry about defending yourself from attackers who overpower you or who have weapons. As someone who lives outside of the US: it is nice. You guys should try it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Honestly, I wished we would. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago I've literally only ever seen a gun take a life that didn't deserve it. How many home invaders have you personally staved off? You know this isn't 1921 anymore, right? The gun culture in this country is toxic and you're part of the problem spreading that bs to justify your own peace of mind. I'm sure you only need Jesus and your ar-15 to survive but the rest of us would like to go to the grocery store without worrying about the place being shot up by some nut job that picked up a rifle at the corner shop on a whim. permalink fedilink source parent [–] guacupado@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Anyone playing fair in a life or death situation isn't trying hard enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrianTheFirst@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This would be a lovely take, if there weren't so many other people running around with guns. Is it cowardly to want to protect yourself from the actual cowards? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh, you mean the cowards with guns? The guns that make it so easy to murder you or even schools full of children? You're talking about those gun users specifically, right? Boy, it would be great if we could get some meaningful laws about that, huh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrianTheFirst@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Sure would. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TWeaK@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Except for all the parts in the world that have proven it true. No, you should just keep your head in the sand and rely purely on hope that someone you know won't be killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) No that’s why I teach them gun safety and marksmanship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Children shouldn't be using guns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Children shouldn’t be using guns without adult supervision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Young children shouldn't be using guns at all. Teenagers should only be using guns at authorised shooting ranges with direct 1 to 1 supervision with a trained and certified staff member - not just any adult or parent at home. There is no need to play with guns, and the risk of harm to others is grossly disproportionate to your desire to have a bit of fun. Your freedom for fun impinges on the freedoms of others to merely be alive and healthy, thus your freedom should be heavily restrained in this instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) My 2A freedom doesn’t impinge upon you in any way shape or form. You can’t preemptively charge people for crimes you’ve imagined. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Statiscally, there is a significant possibility that it will. In many states, stand your ground laws would let you get away with killing someone even if they were unarmed and not physically violent towards you. No one's saying you should be charged with a crime, however measures need to be taken to ensure public safety overall. The 2nd Amendment shouldn't supercede the right to life, and yet it directly facilitates loss of life. How many mass shootings do other Western countries have? What's different in how they handle guns under law? The flaws are glaringly obvious, yet you cling to them out of nothing but pure selfishness. You don't need guns, you want them, but people need to live and are dying because of how prevalent guns are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice. However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important? Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes? Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it. It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Why not? Kids hunt where I live. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) No that’s why I teach them gun safety and marksmanship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Children shouldn't be using guns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Children shouldn’t be using guns without adult supervision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Young children shouldn't be using guns at all. Teenagers should only be using guns at authorised shooting ranges with direct 1 to 1 supervision with a trained and certified staff member - not just any adult or parent at home. There is no need to play with guns, and the risk of harm to others is grossly disproportionate to your desire to have a bit of fun. Your freedom for fun impinges on the freedoms of others to merely be alive and healthy, thus your freedom should be heavily restrained in this instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) My 2A freedom doesn’t impinge upon you in any way shape or form. You can’t preemptively charge people for crimes you’ve imagined. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Statiscally, there is a significant possibility that it will. In many states, stand your ground laws would let you get away with killing someone even if they were unarmed and not physically violent towards you. No one's saying you should be charged with a crime, however measures need to be taken to ensure public safety overall. The 2nd Amendment shouldn't supercede the right to life, and yet it directly facilitates loss of life. How many mass shootings do other Western countries have? What's different in how they handle guns under law? The flaws are glaringly obvious, yet you cling to them out of nothing but pure selfishness. You don't need guns, you want them, but people need to live and are dying because of how prevalent guns are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice. However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important? Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes? Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it. It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Why not? Kids hunt where I live. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Children shouldn't be using guns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Children shouldn’t be using guns without adult supervision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Young children shouldn't be using guns at all. Teenagers should only be using guns at authorised shooting ranges with direct 1 to 1 supervision with a trained and certified staff member - not just any adult or parent at home. There is no need to play with guns, and the risk of harm to others is grossly disproportionate to your desire to have a bit of fun. Your freedom for fun impinges on the freedoms of others to merely be alive and healthy, thus your freedom should be heavily restrained in this instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) My 2A freedom doesn’t impinge upon you in any way shape or form. You can’t preemptively charge people for crimes you’ve imagined. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Statiscally, there is a significant possibility that it will. In many states, stand your ground laws would let you get away with killing someone even if they were unarmed and not physically violent towards you. No one's saying you should be charged with a crime, however measures need to be taken to ensure public safety overall. The 2nd Amendment shouldn't supercede the right to life, and yet it directly facilitates loss of life. How many mass shootings do other Western countries have? What's different in how they handle guns under law? The flaws are glaringly obvious, yet you cling to them out of nothing but pure selfishness. You don't need guns, you want them, but people need to live and are dying because of how prevalent guns are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice. However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important? Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes? Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it. It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Why not? Kids hunt where I live. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Children shouldn’t be using guns without adult supervision. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Young children shouldn't be using guns at all. Teenagers should only be using guns at authorised shooting ranges with direct 1 to 1 supervision with a trained and certified staff member - not just any adult or parent at home. There is no need to play with guns, and the risk of harm to others is grossly disproportionate to your desire to have a bit of fun. Your freedom for fun impinges on the freedoms of others to merely be alive and healthy, thus your freedom should be heavily restrained in this instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) My 2A freedom doesn’t impinge upon you in any way shape or form. You can’t preemptively charge people for crimes you’ve imagined. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Statiscally, there is a significant possibility that it will. In many states, stand your ground laws would let you get away with killing someone even if they were unarmed and not physically violent towards you. No one's saying you should be charged with a crime, however measures need to be taken to ensure public safety overall. The 2nd Amendment shouldn't supercede the right to life, and yet it directly facilitates loss of life. How many mass shootings do other Western countries have? What's different in how they handle guns under law? The flaws are glaringly obvious, yet you cling to them out of nothing but pure selfishness. You don't need guns, you want them, but people need to live and are dying because of how prevalent guns are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice. However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important? Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes? Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it. It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Young children shouldn't be using guns at all. Teenagers should only be using guns at authorised shooting ranges with direct 1 to 1 supervision with a trained and certified staff member - not just any adult or parent at home. There is no need to play with guns, and the risk of harm to others is grossly disproportionate to your desire to have a bit of fun. Your freedom for fun impinges on the freedoms of others to merely be alive and healthy, thus your freedom should be heavily restrained in this instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) My 2A freedom doesn’t impinge upon you in any way shape or form. You can’t preemptively charge people for crimes you’ve imagined. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Statiscally, there is a significant possibility that it will. In many states, stand your ground laws would let you get away with killing someone even if they were unarmed and not physically violent towards you. No one's saying you should be charged with a crime, however measures need to be taken to ensure public safety overall. The 2nd Amendment shouldn't supercede the right to life, and yet it directly facilitates loss of life. How many mass shootings do other Western countries have? What's different in how they handle guns under law? The flaws are glaringly obvious, yet you cling to them out of nothing but pure selfishness. You don't need guns, you want them, but people need to live and are dying because of how prevalent guns are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice. However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important? Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes? Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it. It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) My 2A freedom doesn’t impinge upon you in any way shape or form. You can’t preemptively charge people for crimes you’ve imagined. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Statiscally, there is a significant possibility that it will. In many states, stand your ground laws would let you get away with killing someone even if they were unarmed and not physically violent towards you. No one's saying you should be charged with a crime, however measures need to be taken to ensure public safety overall. The 2nd Amendment shouldn't supercede the right to life, and yet it directly facilitates loss of life. How many mass shootings do other Western countries have? What's different in how they handle guns under law? The flaws are glaringly obvious, yet you cling to them out of nothing but pure selfishness. You don't need guns, you want them, but people need to live and are dying because of how prevalent guns are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice. However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important? Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes? Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it. It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Statiscally, there is a significant possibility that it will. In many states, stand your ground laws would let you get away with killing someone even if they were unarmed and not physically violent towards you. No one's saying you should be charged with a crime, however measures need to be taken to ensure public safety overall. The 2nd Amendment shouldn't supercede the right to life, and yet it directly facilitates loss of life. How many mass shootings do other Western countries have? What's different in how they handle guns under law? The flaws are glaringly obvious, yet you cling to them out of nothing but pure selfishness. You don't need guns, you want them, but people need to live and are dying because of how prevalent guns are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice. However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important? Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes? Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it. It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice. However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important? Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes? Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it. It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below: You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it. you You support modern day slavery in America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important? Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes? Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it. It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it. It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) But why is it important for you to have guns? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made. Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Why not? Kids hunt where I live. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Thteven@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (5 children) Guns are meant to kill at a distance without your opponent touching you or possibly even seeing you, they are fundamentally a cowardly weapon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] fleabomber@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) The phrase "never bring a gun to a knife fight" is referring to intelligence not bravery. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago How about "idioms don't dictate real life and people are dieing", does that jive with you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you prefer it when people kill other people up close? That is somehow brave? You sound psychotic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd rather they didn't kill each other at all, it's weird that you're so defensive about being able to murder people easier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) That isn’t at all what I stated or implied. You are the one who thought it was brave to kill people close up. Maybe you should spend some time working on yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Lol, that isn't at all what I stated or implied. You're the one who thought it was brave to kill people from far away. Have fun with your guns. Coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s because you changed the text of your earlier post. I never stated it was brave to kill anyone at any distance. You seem to be a craven hypocritical anti-2A nut job. You are the very embodiment of why I choose to keep my firearms and support the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago The fuck? I absolutely didn't change the text. I'm just a regular guy who is fed up with the gun lobby bullshit in this country. Kindly go fuck yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Your perspective is incredibly narrow. Must be nice to never have to worry about defending yourself from attackers who overpower you or who have weapons. Definitely all those black people with guns facing down the racists with guns at the Tulsa Race Massacre should've been brave and fought fisticuffs, 21st century style. /S (Yes I'm well aware their homes and businesses were burned to the ground despite attempts to defend themselves). The Black Panthers were just cowards. /S The trans folks at Tenacious Unicorn Ranch definitely were cowards for not facing bigots threatening to kill them with fists and harsh words. /S permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] loobkoob@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Must be nice to never have to worry about defending yourself from attackers who overpower you or who have weapons. As someone who lives outside of the US: it is nice. You guys should try it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Honestly, I wished we would. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago I've literally only ever seen a gun take a life that didn't deserve it. How many home invaders have you personally staved off? You know this isn't 1921 anymore, right? The gun culture in this country is toxic and you're part of the problem spreading that bs to justify your own peace of mind. I'm sure you only need Jesus and your ar-15 to survive but the rest of us would like to go to the grocery store without worrying about the place being shot up by some nut job that picked up a rifle at the corner shop on a whim. permalink fedilink source parent [–] guacupado@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Anyone playing fair in a life or death situation isn't trying hard enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrianTheFirst@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This would be a lovely take, if there weren't so many other people running around with guns. Is it cowardly to want to protect yourself from the actual cowards? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh, you mean the cowards with guns? The guns that make it so easy to murder you or even schools full of children? You're talking about those gun users specifically, right? Boy, it would be great if we could get some meaningful laws about that, huh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrianTheFirst@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Sure would. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fleabomber@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) The phrase "never bring a gun to a knife fight" is referring to intelligence not bravery. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago How about "idioms don't dictate real life and people are dieing", does that jive with you? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Thteven@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago How about "idioms don't dictate real life and people are dieing", does that jive with you? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you prefer it when people kill other people up close? That is somehow brave? You sound psychotic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd rather they didn't kill each other at all, it's weird that you're so defensive about being able to murder people easier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) That isn’t at all what I stated or implied. You are the one who thought it was brave to kill people close up. Maybe you should spend some time working on yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Lol, that isn't at all what I stated or implied. You're the one who thought it was brave to kill people from far away. Have fun with your guns. Coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s because you changed the text of your earlier post. I never stated it was brave to kill anyone at any distance. You seem to be a craven hypocritical anti-2A nut job. You are the very embodiment of why I choose to keep my firearms and support the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago The fuck? I absolutely didn't change the text. I'm just a regular guy who is fed up with the gun lobby bullshit in this country. Kindly go fuck yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd rather they didn't kill each other at all, it's weird that you're so defensive about being able to murder people easier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) That isn’t at all what I stated or implied. You are the one who thought it was brave to kill people close up. Maybe you should spend some time working on yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Lol, that isn't at all what I stated or implied. You're the one who thought it was brave to kill people from far away. Have fun with your guns. Coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s because you changed the text of your earlier post. I never stated it was brave to kill anyone at any distance. You seem to be a craven hypocritical anti-2A nut job. You are the very embodiment of why I choose to keep my firearms and support the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago The fuck? I absolutely didn't change the text. I'm just a regular guy who is fed up with the gun lobby bullshit in this country. Kindly go fuck yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) That isn’t at all what I stated or implied. You are the one who thought it was brave to kill people close up. Maybe you should spend some time working on yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Lol, that isn't at all what I stated or implied. You're the one who thought it was brave to kill people from far away. Have fun with your guns. Coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s because you changed the text of your earlier post. I never stated it was brave to kill anyone at any distance. You seem to be a craven hypocritical anti-2A nut job. You are the very embodiment of why I choose to keep my firearms and support the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago The fuck? I absolutely didn't change the text. I'm just a regular guy who is fed up with the gun lobby bullshit in this country. Kindly go fuck yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Thteven@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Lol, that isn't at all what I stated or implied. You're the one who thought it was brave to kill people from far away. Have fun with your guns. Coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s because you changed the text of your earlier post. I never stated it was brave to kill anyone at any distance. You seem to be a craven hypocritical anti-2A nut job. You are the very embodiment of why I choose to keep my firearms and support the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago The fuck? I absolutely didn't change the text. I'm just a regular guy who is fed up with the gun lobby bullshit in this country. Kindly go fuck yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s because you changed the text of your earlier post. I never stated it was brave to kill anyone at any distance. You seem to be a craven hypocritical anti-2A nut job. You are the very embodiment of why I choose to keep my firearms and support the 2A. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago The fuck? I absolutely didn't change the text. I'm just a regular guy who is fed up with the gun lobby bullshit in this country. Kindly go fuck yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thteven@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago The fuck? I absolutely didn't change the text. I'm just a regular guy who is fed up with the gun lobby bullshit in this country. Kindly go fuck yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Your perspective is incredibly narrow. Must be nice to never have to worry about defending yourself from attackers who overpower you or who have weapons. Definitely all those black people with guns facing down the racists with guns at the Tulsa Race Massacre should've been brave and fought fisticuffs, 21st century style. /S (Yes I'm well aware their homes and businesses were burned to the ground despite attempts to defend themselves). The Black Panthers were just cowards. /S The trans folks at Tenacious Unicorn Ranch definitely were cowards for not facing bigots threatening to kill them with fists and harsh words. /S permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] loobkoob@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Must be nice to never have to worry about defending yourself from attackers who overpower you or who have weapons. As someone who lives outside of the US: it is nice. You guys should try it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Honestly, I wished we would. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thteven@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago I've literally only ever seen a gun take a life that didn't deserve it. How many home invaders have you personally staved off? You know this isn't 1921 anymore, right? The gun culture in this country is toxic and you're part of the problem spreading that bs to justify your own peace of mind. I'm sure you only need Jesus and your ar-15 to survive but the rest of us would like to go to the grocery store without worrying about the place being shot up by some nut job that picked up a rifle at the corner shop on a whim. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Must be nice to never have to worry about defending yourself from attackers who overpower you or who have weapons. As someone who lives outside of the US: it is nice. You guys should try it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Honestly, I wished we would. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Honestly, I wished we would. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thteven@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago I've literally only ever seen a gun take a life that didn't deserve it. How many home invaders have you personally staved off? You know this isn't 1921 anymore, right? The gun culture in this country is toxic and you're part of the problem spreading that bs to justify your own peace of mind. I'm sure you only need Jesus and your ar-15 to survive but the rest of us would like to go to the grocery store without worrying about the place being shot up by some nut job that picked up a rifle at the corner shop on a whim. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Anyone playing fair in a life or death situation isn't trying hard enough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BrianTheFirst@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) This would be a lovely take, if there weren't so many other people running around with guns. Is it cowardly to want to protect yourself from the actual cowards? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Thteven@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh, you mean the cowards with guns? The guns that make it so easy to murder you or even schools full of children? You're talking about those gun users specifically, right? Boy, it would be great if we could get some meaningful laws about that, huh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrianTheFirst@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Sure would. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Thteven@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh, you mean the cowards with guns? The guns that make it so easy to murder you or even schools full of children? You're talking about those gun users specifically, right? Boy, it would be great if we could get some meaningful laws about that, huh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BrianTheFirst@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Sure would. permalink fedilink source parent