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[–] 77 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Exactly this. Fuck this lesser of two evils that I have to vote for because two party systems suck.

But no one is loud about that because it's obvious.

That said, he's done some pretty ok things in office. He's just also done some pretty horrible things. Net net, I think it's been mediocre.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I really wish we could use alternative voting mechanics like ranked choice voting. I think it would help because you could vote for who you want to but still vote for who you think will win.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    It will be hard to make the people in power give us the tools to take away their power.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Strikes, occupations and uhm very persuasive in person arguments are some of the things that have worked historically.

    Bringing a Constitution and Guillotine did work out in the end for the Danish worker's movement of 1848, when the king conceded. A violent uprising was averted.

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  • [+] -26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    If you think two party system suck, just don’t hope for a multiparty system. Those suck even more. You never know which idiot will end up building a coalition and coming to power.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    yeah I don't see much issue in that given the idiots we get now. At least the others have to juggle their coalition and are subject to no confidence votes and the opposition has a shadow cabinet ready to go.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    The two party system also juggles coalitions, but we know them most popularly as voting blocks in the general population or caucuses in the parties. This is one of the reasons Sinema and Manchin held so much power from '20-'22. Our caucuses and voting blocks don't always give power to individuals, but mostly to agendas.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    Could you point to an example of a multi party democracy that produced something as bad as trump? I'm not aware of any, but I'm not well versed.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    None of them - that weren't from the largest party.

    Basically, they got the same as first past the post Trump, but had to bring along less shit parties along instead of being a political mono-culture like FPTP creates. So even at their worst, they're still better.

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