▲ 1686 ▼ Tax time (startrek.website) submitted 2 years ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website [M] to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 148 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (4 children) Damn y'all Americans really do taxes weird permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's because our country is a corporate oligarchy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds cooler than it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Glemek@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) And it doesn't even sound cool... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds uncool as hell permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago Not if you're an oligarch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Americans as a whole are very stupid and don't realize that the overwhelming majority of them can file for free. In fact, 100% of Americans can self-file (for free) if they can handle about an hour of basic paperwork, but for 70% of Americans, you can file taxes for free in less than twenty minutes. It's not hard at all. But most people would rather Google "how to file taxes," click on the first sponsored link they see, and buy something before they ever actually try to do even a minute of research. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Tbf as a Swede I just log in, glance at the forms, sign and log out. That's what easy is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I'm not saying that filing in the US takes zero effort whatsoever, but you have some deeper problems if you don't think five questions like "What does Box A on your paper form say?" isn't just as easy. You're saying, "My car has 500 horsepower. That's what fast is" to a guy with a 499hp car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago When I'm crippled by power harassment at the last 5 jobs, 2 of which are current, I just want to sign in and click okay and be done. Or click no and do paperwork, but only if the initial suggestion was incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It's more like comparing an automatic gearbox to a manual IMO permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) if they can handle about an hour of basic paperwork, People make it out like tax filing is like travelling to Ry'leh and transcribing eldritch runes, but it's made pretty dead simple. Put the number from one box in piece of paper A into the corresponding box in piece of paper B. If it has you do a math, you can just... Do a math. Pull out your calculator and subtract the amount you've paid so far from the amount you owe. Is the result a negative number? Congratulations! You're getting a return! Is the number positive? Oh no! That's how much you need to pay the IRS! I get that for some people it is significantly more complicated than that, but if you work one job where you make some number of dollars per hour and you don't invest in the stock market or cryptocurrency, it's virtually idiotproof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] duffman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago People are afraid of trying and making mistakes because the consequences may be severe. When you get into stocks, crypto, homeownership, etc, the forma start piling up. I had a company mess up our taxes one year and correcting it, with a tax professional, took hours. permalink fedilink source parent [+] vsh@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Canada does this too. Do other countries just tell you? That'd be nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago My country just tells you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah. Basically, we get a pre-filled form with most of what can automatically filled in, already filled in. Of course some stuff like donations (which are deductible) and other stuff that are not automatically linked to you have to be added by hand, but for a vast majority of people there is no such thing. So basically, open the pre-filled form, check that the incomes and your current situation is correct, send it back, then you basically get the amount (which can be either automatically collected through direct debit at a given date, split monthly, or paid manually). We usually argue about why and how much tax we pay, but I never had any heated discussion about the tax system itself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's because our country is a corporate oligarchy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds cooler than it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Glemek@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) And it doesn't even sound cool... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds uncool as hell permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago Not if you're an oligarch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds cooler than it is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Glemek@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) And it doesn't even sound cool... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds uncool as hell permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago Not if you're an oligarch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Glemek@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) And it doesn't even sound cool... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds uncool as hell permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago Not if you're an oligarch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds uncool as hell permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago Not if you're an oligarch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago Not if you're an oligarch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Americans as a whole are very stupid and don't realize that the overwhelming majority of them can file for free. In fact, 100% of Americans can self-file (for free) if they can handle about an hour of basic paperwork, but for 70% of Americans, you can file taxes for free in less than twenty minutes. It's not hard at all. But most people would rather Google "how to file taxes," click on the first sponsored link they see, and buy something before they ever actually try to do even a minute of research. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Tbf as a Swede I just log in, glance at the forms, sign and log out. That's what easy is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I'm not saying that filing in the US takes zero effort whatsoever, but you have some deeper problems if you don't think five questions like "What does Box A on your paper form say?" isn't just as easy. You're saying, "My car has 500 horsepower. That's what fast is" to a guy with a 499hp car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago When I'm crippled by power harassment at the last 5 jobs, 2 of which are current, I just want to sign in and click okay and be done. Or click no and do paperwork, but only if the initial suggestion was incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It's more like comparing an automatic gearbox to a manual IMO permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) if they can handle about an hour of basic paperwork, People make it out like tax filing is like travelling to Ry'leh and transcribing eldritch runes, but it's made pretty dead simple. Put the number from one box in piece of paper A into the corresponding box in piece of paper B. If it has you do a math, you can just... Do a math. Pull out your calculator and subtract the amount you've paid so far from the amount you owe. Is the result a negative number? Congratulations! You're getting a return! Is the number positive? Oh no! That's how much you need to pay the IRS! I get that for some people it is significantly more complicated than that, but if you work one job where you make some number of dollars per hour and you don't invest in the stock market or cryptocurrency, it's virtually idiotproof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] duffman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago People are afraid of trying and making mistakes because the consequences may be severe. When you get into stocks, crypto, homeownership, etc, the forma start piling up. I had a company mess up our taxes one year and correcting it, with a tax professional, took hours. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Tbf as a Swede I just log in, glance at the forms, sign and log out. That's what easy is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I'm not saying that filing in the US takes zero effort whatsoever, but you have some deeper problems if you don't think five questions like "What does Box A on your paper form say?" isn't just as easy. You're saying, "My car has 500 horsepower. That's what fast is" to a guy with a 499hp car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago When I'm crippled by power harassment at the last 5 jobs, 2 of which are current, I just want to sign in and click okay and be done. Or click no and do paperwork, but only if the initial suggestion was incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It's more like comparing an automatic gearbox to a manual IMO permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I'm not saying that filing in the US takes zero effort whatsoever, but you have some deeper problems if you don't think five questions like "What does Box A on your paper form say?" isn't just as easy. You're saying, "My car has 500 horsepower. That's what fast is" to a guy with a 499hp car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago When I'm crippled by power harassment at the last 5 jobs, 2 of which are current, I just want to sign in and click okay and be done. Or click no and do paperwork, but only if the initial suggestion was incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It's more like comparing an automatic gearbox to a manual IMO permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago When I'm crippled by power harassment at the last 5 jobs, 2 of which are current, I just want to sign in and click okay and be done. Or click no and do paperwork, but only if the initial suggestion was incorrect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It's more like comparing an automatic gearbox to a manual IMO permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) if they can handle about an hour of basic paperwork, People make it out like tax filing is like travelling to Ry'leh and transcribing eldritch runes, but it's made pretty dead simple. Put the number from one box in piece of paper A into the corresponding box in piece of paper B. If it has you do a math, you can just... Do a math. Pull out your calculator and subtract the amount you've paid so far from the amount you owe. Is the result a negative number? Congratulations! You're getting a return! Is the number positive? Oh no! That's how much you need to pay the IRS! I get that for some people it is significantly more complicated than that, but if you work one job where you make some number of dollars per hour and you don't invest in the stock market or cryptocurrency, it's virtually idiotproof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] duffman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago People are afraid of trying and making mistakes because the consequences may be severe. When you get into stocks, crypto, homeownership, etc, the forma start piling up. I had a company mess up our taxes one year and correcting it, with a tax professional, took hours. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] duffman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago People are afraid of trying and making mistakes because the consequences may be severe. When you get into stocks, crypto, homeownership, etc, the forma start piling up. I had a company mess up our taxes one year and correcting it, with a tax professional, took hours. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] vsh@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Canada does this too. Do other countries just tell you? That'd be nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago My country just tells you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah. Basically, we get a pre-filled form with most of what can automatically filled in, already filled in. Of course some stuff like donations (which are deductible) and other stuff that are not automatically linked to you have to be added by hand, but for a vast majority of people there is no such thing. So basically, open the pre-filled form, check that the incomes and your current situation is correct, send it back, then you basically get the amount (which can be either automatically collected through direct debit at a given date, split monthly, or paid manually). We usually argue about why and how much tax we pay, but I never had any heated discussion about the tax system itself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago My country just tells you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah. Basically, we get a pre-filled form with most of what can automatically filled in, already filled in. Of course some stuff like donations (which are deductible) and other stuff that are not automatically linked to you have to be added by hand, but for a vast majority of people there is no such thing. So basically, open the pre-filled form, check that the incomes and your current situation is correct, send it back, then you basically get the amount (which can be either automatically collected through direct debit at a given date, split monthly, or paid manually). We usually argue about why and how much tax we pay, but I never had any heated discussion about the tax system itself. permalink fedilink source parent