▲ 760 ▼ Bernie Sanders stops GOP senator from fighting teamster president at hearing: 'You're a United States senator!' (www.businessinsider.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 128 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Enkrod@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) One of those people is not a US Senator. The Senator was the one bringing it up, getting all worked up over a Tweet. The Senator, chose "Congress" as the place and "during a hearing" as the time. Both these decisions are absolutely unfit for a US Senator. Go fucking meet the guy behind a 7eleven after work or something like that. But nooo, the Senator said "here is a place, now is a time" because he needed to look like a tough guy in front of cameras. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Either you are trolling or being intentionally obtuse because being a Senator absolutely has a bearing on this. He should have a modicum of decorum, professionalism, political savvy, tact, and respect for his office. He should know better. He got clowned by some tweets and should be embarrassed that he printed them out then brought them up in an official hearing then challenged a guy to a fight. Its a joke and makes a mockery of the senate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago This person is definitely following a script. permalink fedilink source parent [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Faera@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think it's unreasonable to take the literal meaning od 'anytime, anywhere'. Like, if he was attending a funeral and the senator turned up and challenged him there, would that still be appropriate? How about if he was visiting a kindergarten? While he's helping an old woman cross the road? Performing first aid on an injured person? There are still times that are appropriate and not appropriate. You could say that the challenge itself was childish and I would agree. But the anytime, anywhere condition doesn't make it unconditionally ok for the senator to pick this time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly I agree. I just don't think that excuses the Senator from actually accepting the challenge at that time and place (or arguably any time and place, but especially that one). Two wrongs don't make a right... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge. In response to people saying that the Senator acted inappropriately. But perhaps I misinterpreted. Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree, but I'd still say tweeting a challenge is less inappropriate than actually accepting that challenge at that time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] bartlebee@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago I choose trial by combat! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) One of those people is not a US Senator. The Senator was the one bringing it up, getting all worked up over a Tweet. The Senator, chose "Congress" as the place and "during a hearing" as the time. Both these decisions are absolutely unfit for a US Senator. Go fucking meet the guy behind a 7eleven after work or something like that. But nooo, the Senator said "here is a place, now is a time" because he needed to look like a tough guy in front of cameras. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Either you are trolling or being intentionally obtuse because being a Senator absolutely has a bearing on this. He should have a modicum of decorum, professionalism, political savvy, tact, and respect for his office. He should know better. He got clowned by some tweets and should be embarrassed that he printed them out then brought them up in an official hearing then challenged a guy to a fight. Its a joke and makes a mockery of the senate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago This person is definitely following a script. permalink fedilink source parent [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Either you are trolling or being intentionally obtuse because being a Senator absolutely has a bearing on this. He should have a modicum of decorum, professionalism, political savvy, tact, and respect for his office. He should know better. He got clowned by some tweets and should be embarrassed that he printed them out then brought them up in an official hearing then challenged a guy to a fight. Its a joke and makes a mockery of the senate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago This person is definitely following a script. permalink fedilink source parent [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Either you are trolling or being intentionally obtuse because being a Senator absolutely has a bearing on this. He should have a modicum of decorum, professionalism, political savvy, tact, and respect for his office. He should know better. He got clowned by some tweets and should be embarrassed that he printed them out then brought them up in an official hearing then challenged a guy to a fight. Its a joke and makes a mockery of the senate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago This person is definitely following a script. permalink fedilink source parent [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago This person is definitely following a script. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Faera@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think it's unreasonable to take the literal meaning od 'anytime, anywhere'. Like, if he was attending a funeral and the senator turned up and challenged him there, would that still be appropriate? How about if he was visiting a kindergarten? While he's helping an old woman cross the road? Performing first aid on an injured person? There are still times that are appropriate and not appropriate. You could say that the challenge itself was childish and I would agree. But the anytime, anywhere condition doesn't make it unconditionally ok for the senator to pick this time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly I agree. I just don't think that excuses the Senator from actually accepting the challenge at that time and place (or arguably any time and place, but especially that one). Two wrongs don't make a right... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge. In response to people saying that the Senator acted inappropriately. But perhaps I misinterpreted. Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree, but I'd still say tweeting a challenge is less inappropriate than actually accepting that challenge at that time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] bartlebee@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago I choose trial by combat! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly I agree. I just don't think that excuses the Senator from actually accepting the challenge at that time and place (or arguably any time and place, but especially that one). Two wrongs don't make a right... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge. In response to people saying that the Senator acted inappropriately. But perhaps I misinterpreted. Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree, but I'd still say tweeting a challenge is less inappropriate than actually accepting that challenge at that time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] bartlebee@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago I choose trial by combat! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly I agree. I just don't think that excuses the Senator from actually accepting the challenge at that time and place (or arguably any time and place, but especially that one). Two wrongs don't make a right... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge. In response to people saying that the Senator acted inappropriately. But perhaps I misinterpreted. Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree, but I'd still say tweeting a challenge is less inappropriate than actually accepting that challenge at that time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge. In response to people saying that the Senator acted inappropriately. But perhaps I misinterpreted. Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree, but I'd still say tweeting a challenge is less inappropriate than actually accepting that challenge at that time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Faera@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge. In response to people saying that the Senator acted inappropriately. But perhaps I misinterpreted. Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree, but I'd still say tweeting a challenge is less inappropriate than actually accepting that challenge at that time and place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bartlebee@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago I choose trial by combat! permalink fedilink source parent