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[–] 108 points 2 years ago* (42 children)

This is completely stupid. If Hamas are hiding in hospitals then surely there's a better fucking way to target them than trying to blow the whole fucking place up. One way would be to send a strike team, after all Israel and Mossad are "famous" for hunting terrorists down after the Munich bombing at the Olympics. Yet the same country can only now resort to cutting off infrastructure and bombing refugee camps, ambulances, schools and hospitals plus which is killing aid workers and drs.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I don’t know how strike teams work and such but I doubt it’s as easy as in Call of Duty.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    OP's a child who's never dealt with violence, war or destroyed infrastructure.

    My ex-FIL was a decorated Army vet (Iraq, 2x Bronze Stars), Mississippi National Guard. FFS, those men couldn't get into their own cities after Hurricane Katrina, in peacetime. They cut fucking houses in half and pushed them aside to open the roads.

    Send in a strike team?! To a civilian hospital in a war zone?! That's a solid plan to get your men killed on the incursion, OR, get a bunch of civilians killed and THEN lose all your men.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Yeah, for starters your own people are going to get killed.

    It would probably have fewer casualties on the enemy side however since some of them might actually live. However, Israel's goal is not to allow Hamas members to survive.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (22 children)

    This is not as easy as you think. You have to get your team to the target, through terrorists hiding among civilians, through IDE’s that are hidden along the way, through civilians that do not like you. And if you miraculously survive this march without heavy casualties the Hamas are already gone and hide somewhere else…not to forget the civilian casualties that would happen on the way…

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This is a war, so you are basically talking about an urban assault involving thousands of IDF infantry kicking doors down house to house and shooting anyone who shoots at them.

    The US did that in Fallujah, and it's pretty gnarly. US had 500 casualties IIRC. The US also told all the residents to evacuate Fallujah before the operation went down.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    That's why they're using this strategy. If there were a ton of Israeli soldier casualties on Bibi's watch, the military might let the public remove him from power, or do it themselves. Netanyahu has every motivation to bomb and starve Gaza. The actual solution would have been to build up Palestinian groups who oppose Hamas and prefer a two state solution, but that isn't the IDF's goal. Their refusal to do so over the last few decades not only led to this war, but should have told supportive nations that too many Zionists are genocidal theocrats.

    The most economical endgame for Israel's current military actions is the forceful expulsion of almost all Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank. Occupation is a bad option. They've undermined the movement for coexistence so badly that even a total reversal of policy would be difficult. It's so fucking sad.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Meh. God will punish him surely.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't care what God will do to him; I just want to get these awful people out of power so they'll stop killing children. God making things right in the afterlife isn't a universally agreed upon truth, so we must do the right thing regardless of its existence. If God is good, surely he'd want us to make our mortal existence less miserable and more meaningful, right?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    America tried bombing a million innocent civilians from the comfort of their lazy ass Texas seat too. Remind me whether they won that war. Surely they didn't leave a giant power vacuum and created many more resistance fighters.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    The irony of hiding in a hospital when you literally cause war.

    Doesn't it make more sense to argue that the person dropping bombs just doesn't want to admit they missed the target and fucked thousands of people because they're shit at their job? If you were fighting an alien or hunting a foreign agent, and you screwed up and accidentally shot your own family down in flames, you'd probably be rather embarrassed, I sure would be too haha

    But hey it's alright nobody will judge even if they knew because the truth is that some jobs suck and just get glamorised on the news and in the media precisely because even the very few who make the cut can still be considered competent

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