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[β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) The "people" who intend to mean that I shouldn't even be paid aren't people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is not about compensation. If the work is unskilled it is unskilled. How much it should be paid is a different discussion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The people who invented the term invented it to justify low or no pay permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Citation needed. Please tell me the name of the people, the date they invented the term, the justification they offered for the term, and private letters that indicate this conspiracy. Take as much time as you need to provide these four pieces of data that would back up your claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is not a genuine ask. You just don't want to acknowledge propaganda. No work is deserving of such scorn and disrespect. All work requires effort and should be recognised as such. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Don't tell me what my intentions are you are not a mind reader. And don't imply something I didn't say. Now how are citations going? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you really think all work doesn't require skill? That there are jobs out there that are truly mindless? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Tell me you have never been with a rollform operation without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're buying into a way of thinking that only serves to demonise the "lowest" of the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago How is that citation going? permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can't fathom cognitive dissonance of being able to say unskilled and implying it isn't equivalent to $0 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I canβt fathom Well, theory of mind is a skill. Fine. Maybe an analogy will help. If you say X = 2 and I say that it does not, does that mean I am saying it is equal to 3? You made an assertion, I reject your assertion, that doesn't mean anything else. A does not imply B in this case. Unskilled labor does not mean it should be done for free. No one is saying that, except you. Because that strawman is able to defeat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Work is activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result. Something unskilled isn't work. Not sure what's so hard to understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) My dude, are you seriously in here arguing that unskilled labor doesn't deserve pay? Wow, how vile. Good troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) They actually have something of a point here. They're essentially arguing unskilled work doesn't exist. They're saying all work is skilled work. They're saying the very notion of unskilled is a fantasy used to excuse not paying for certain work. They even implied the opposite of what you claimed, by insulting people who use the term unskilled to justify unpaid work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm going to be honest with you, I really don't have a stake in this argument. The only reason I'm following him around and antagonizing him is to show him how ridiculous it is to assert that the social contract we all share isn't necessary. He made it a point to declare his right to be an asshole and also explained that his purpose of existence is soley to be intolerant towards tolerant people, in the name of cynically proving that any person who claims to be tolerant actually isn't. All this on a post ironically about the paradox of tolerance. And that's when I looked at his profile and noticed he's just kind of an asshole to everyone. So I'm agitating him to demonstrate that you can't just skirt the conversational norms we all abide by and troll in the name of your right to be an asshole. It's kind of petty, I know. But I'm not really concerned with representing his argument honestly, since intellectual honesty is something he doesn't abide by either by his own declaration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I don't really care what this guy did in a different thread. In this thread, they're making a good point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) And before you say it, I'm also aware that the point is going to fly over his head. I just enjoy messing with trolls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago* I also generally agree with this treatment of trolls.But I also think defending workers from insult is important. permalink fedilink source parent [+] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Yes I just wrote this, everything that gets pay today is in fact more than unskilled. Go fuck yourself you retarded clown, you literally entertain me for free and don't even see the irony in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ooo look, a more pointed insult. You know, the fool is the one who responds to the clown, not the clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know, keep responding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So which are you? The clown or the fool? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did he mean by this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent [β] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Please remain civil. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Oh not going to defend your old argument anymore? This is the skill of deflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* This guy's account is 8 hours old with 100+ comments, and every single one that's addressing a reply to something he said is a deflection. He's a troll teaching a masterclass on deflection. permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't need to defend anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course you don't. Who actually follows the rules of discourse anyway? Don't like that you can't defend your point adequately? Just quit! Bravo my friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did I also forget to sign some terms of service before replying to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, you made it very clear earlier that you don't do social contracts. I'm just making sure other people know that too. Like, "Hey, this guy's not gonna argue with you in good faith. He literally said that he doesn't have to defend points he makes" Why should people waste their time on you? It's only fair to warn them, you know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please tell me what else I don't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah you don't. Deflecting, strawmanning, goal post moving, +100 on an account created 8 hours ago. Don't defend any of it. I changed my mind. I want you to leave this turd on the ground where everyone can see it and see who left it there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My original point stands, don't forget moving it anywhere. Just because you're mindbroken by me being able to post more than you can in your day on Antiwork of all places, doesn't mean that it's my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Nice! Break that fool, you're such a dominant troll. You put that turd right on the ground and make him look at it permalink fedilink source parent [β] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have a master's degree, but I can honestly say working at Wendy's took just as much skill as what I do now. "People" who use terms like "unskilled labor" are part of the problem. There's no such thing as "unskilled labor." I'm agreeing with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I only have a bachelor's degree and can honestly say that there is no way I can do my job without it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is not about compensation. If the work is unskilled it is unskilled. How much it should be paid is a different discussion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The people who invented the term invented it to justify low or no pay permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Citation needed. Please tell me the name of the people, the date they invented the term, the justification they offered for the term, and private letters that indicate this conspiracy. Take as much time as you need to provide these four pieces of data that would back up your claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is not a genuine ask. You just don't want to acknowledge propaganda. No work is deserving of such scorn and disrespect. All work requires effort and should be recognised as such. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Don't tell me what my intentions are you are not a mind reader. And don't imply something I didn't say. Now how are citations going? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you really think all work doesn't require skill? That there are jobs out there that are truly mindless? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Tell me you have never been with a rollform operation without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're buying into a way of thinking that only serves to demonise the "lowest" of the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago How is that citation going? permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can't fathom cognitive dissonance of being able to say unskilled and implying it isn't equivalent to $0 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I canβt fathom Well, theory of mind is a skill. Fine. Maybe an analogy will help. If you say X = 2 and I say that it does not, does that mean I am saying it is equal to 3? You made an assertion, I reject your assertion, that doesn't mean anything else. A does not imply B in this case. Unskilled labor does not mean it should be done for free. No one is saying that, except you. Because that strawman is able to defeat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Work is activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result. Something unskilled isn't work. Not sure what's so hard to understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) My dude, are you seriously in here arguing that unskilled labor doesn't deserve pay? Wow, how vile. Good troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) They actually have something of a point here. They're essentially arguing unskilled work doesn't exist. They're saying all work is skilled work. They're saying the very notion of unskilled is a fantasy used to excuse not paying for certain work. They even implied the opposite of what you claimed, by insulting people who use the term unskilled to justify unpaid work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm going to be honest with you, I really don't have a stake in this argument. The only reason I'm following him around and antagonizing him is to show him how ridiculous it is to assert that the social contract we all share isn't necessary. He made it a point to declare his right to be an asshole and also explained that his purpose of existence is soley to be intolerant towards tolerant people, in the name of cynically proving that any person who claims to be tolerant actually isn't. All this on a post ironically about the paradox of tolerance. And that's when I looked at his profile and noticed he's just kind of an asshole to everyone. So I'm agitating him to demonstrate that you can't just skirt the conversational norms we all abide by and troll in the name of your right to be an asshole. It's kind of petty, I know. But I'm not really concerned with representing his argument honestly, since intellectual honesty is something he doesn't abide by either by his own declaration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I don't really care what this guy did in a different thread. In this thread, they're making a good point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) And before you say it, I'm also aware that the point is going to fly over his head. I just enjoy messing with trolls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago* I also generally agree with this treatment of trolls.But I also think defending workers from insult is important. permalink fedilink source parent [+] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Yes I just wrote this, everything that gets pay today is in fact more than unskilled. Go fuck yourself you retarded clown, you literally entertain me for free and don't even see the irony in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ooo look, a more pointed insult. You know, the fool is the one who responds to the clown, not the clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know, keep responding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So which are you? The clown or the fool? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did he mean by this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent [β] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Please remain civil. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Oh not going to defend your old argument anymore? This is the skill of deflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* This guy's account is 8 hours old with 100+ comments, and every single one that's addressing a reply to something he said is a deflection. He's a troll teaching a masterclass on deflection. permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't need to defend anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course you don't. Who actually follows the rules of discourse anyway? Don't like that you can't defend your point adequately? Just quit! Bravo my friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did I also forget to sign some terms of service before replying to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, you made it very clear earlier that you don't do social contracts. I'm just making sure other people know that too. Like, "Hey, this guy's not gonna argue with you in good faith. He literally said that he doesn't have to defend points he makes" Why should people waste their time on you? It's only fair to warn them, you know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please tell me what else I don't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah you don't. Deflecting, strawmanning, goal post moving, +100 on an account created 8 hours ago. Don't defend any of it. I changed my mind. I want you to leave this turd on the ground where everyone can see it and see who left it there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My original point stands, don't forget moving it anywhere. Just because you're mindbroken by me being able to post more than you can in your day on Antiwork of all places, doesn't mean that it's my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Nice! Break that fool, you're such a dominant troll. You put that turd right on the ground and make him look at it permalink fedilink source parent
[β] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The people who invented the term invented it to justify low or no pay permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Citation needed. Please tell me the name of the people, the date they invented the term, the justification they offered for the term, and private letters that indicate this conspiracy. Take as much time as you need to provide these four pieces of data that would back up your claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is not a genuine ask. You just don't want to acknowledge propaganda. No work is deserving of such scorn and disrespect. All work requires effort and should be recognised as such. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Don't tell me what my intentions are you are not a mind reader. And don't imply something I didn't say. Now how are citations going? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you really think all work doesn't require skill? That there are jobs out there that are truly mindless? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Tell me you have never been with a rollform operation without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're buying into a way of thinking that only serves to demonise the "lowest" of the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago How is that citation going? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Citation needed. Please tell me the name of the people, the date they invented the term, the justification they offered for the term, and private letters that indicate this conspiracy. Take as much time as you need to provide these four pieces of data that would back up your claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is not a genuine ask. You just don't want to acknowledge propaganda. No work is deserving of such scorn and disrespect. All work requires effort and should be recognised as such. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Don't tell me what my intentions are you are not a mind reader. And don't imply something I didn't say. Now how are citations going? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you really think all work doesn't require skill? That there are jobs out there that are truly mindless? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Tell me you have never been with a rollform operation without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're buying into a way of thinking that only serves to demonise the "lowest" of the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago How is that citation going? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) This is not a genuine ask. You just don't want to acknowledge propaganda. No work is deserving of such scorn and disrespect. All work requires effort and should be recognised as such. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Don't tell me what my intentions are you are not a mind reader. And don't imply something I didn't say. Now how are citations going? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you really think all work doesn't require skill? That there are jobs out there that are truly mindless? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Tell me you have never been with a rollform operation without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're buying into a way of thinking that only serves to demonise the "lowest" of the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago How is that citation going? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Don't tell me what my intentions are you are not a mind reader. And don't imply something I didn't say. Now how are citations going? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you really think all work doesn't require skill? That there are jobs out there that are truly mindless? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Tell me you have never been with a rollform operation without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're buying into a way of thinking that only serves to demonise the "lowest" of the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago How is that citation going? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you really think all work doesn't require skill? That there are jobs out there that are truly mindless? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Tell me you have never been with a rollform operation without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're buying into a way of thinking that only serves to demonise the "lowest" of the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago How is that citation going? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Tell me you have never been with a rollform operation without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're buying into a way of thinking that only serves to demonise the "lowest" of the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago How is that citation going? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're buying into a way of thinking that only serves to demonise the "lowest" of the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago How is that citation going? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago How is that citation going? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can't fathom cognitive dissonance of being able to say unskilled and implying it isn't equivalent to $0 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I canβt fathom Well, theory of mind is a skill. Fine. Maybe an analogy will help. If you say X = 2 and I say that it does not, does that mean I am saying it is equal to 3? You made an assertion, I reject your assertion, that doesn't mean anything else. A does not imply B in this case. Unskilled labor does not mean it should be done for free. No one is saying that, except you. Because that strawman is able to defeat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Work is activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result. Something unskilled isn't work. Not sure what's so hard to understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) My dude, are you seriously in here arguing that unskilled labor doesn't deserve pay? Wow, how vile. Good troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) They actually have something of a point here. They're essentially arguing unskilled work doesn't exist. They're saying all work is skilled work. They're saying the very notion of unskilled is a fantasy used to excuse not paying for certain work. They even implied the opposite of what you claimed, by insulting people who use the term unskilled to justify unpaid work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm going to be honest with you, I really don't have a stake in this argument. The only reason I'm following him around and antagonizing him is to show him how ridiculous it is to assert that the social contract we all share isn't necessary. He made it a point to declare his right to be an asshole and also explained that his purpose of existence is soley to be intolerant towards tolerant people, in the name of cynically proving that any person who claims to be tolerant actually isn't. All this on a post ironically about the paradox of tolerance. And that's when I looked at his profile and noticed he's just kind of an asshole to everyone. So I'm agitating him to demonstrate that you can't just skirt the conversational norms we all abide by and troll in the name of your right to be an asshole. It's kind of petty, I know. But I'm not really concerned with representing his argument honestly, since intellectual honesty is something he doesn't abide by either by his own declaration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I don't really care what this guy did in a different thread. In this thread, they're making a good point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) And before you say it, I'm also aware that the point is going to fly over his head. I just enjoy messing with trolls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago* I also generally agree with this treatment of trolls.But I also think defending workers from insult is important. permalink fedilink source parent [+] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Yes I just wrote this, everything that gets pay today is in fact more than unskilled. Go fuck yourself you retarded clown, you literally entertain me for free and don't even see the irony in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ooo look, a more pointed insult. You know, the fool is the one who responds to the clown, not the clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know, keep responding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So which are you? The clown or the fool? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did he mean by this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent [β] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Please remain civil. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Oh not going to defend your old argument anymore? This is the skill of deflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* This guy's account is 8 hours old with 100+ comments, and every single one that's addressing a reply to something he said is a deflection. He's a troll teaching a masterclass on deflection. permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't need to defend anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course you don't. Who actually follows the rules of discourse anyway? Don't like that you can't defend your point adequately? Just quit! Bravo my friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did I also forget to sign some terms of service before replying to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, you made it very clear earlier that you don't do social contracts. I'm just making sure other people know that too. Like, "Hey, this guy's not gonna argue with you in good faith. He literally said that he doesn't have to defend points he makes" Why should people waste their time on you? It's only fair to warn them, you know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please tell me what else I don't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah you don't. Deflecting, strawmanning, goal post moving, +100 on an account created 8 hours ago. Don't defend any of it. I changed my mind. I want you to leave this turd on the ground where everyone can see it and see who left it there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My original point stands, don't forget moving it anywhere. Just because you're mindbroken by me being able to post more than you can in your day on Antiwork of all places, doesn't mean that it's my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Nice! Break that fool, you're such a dominant troll. You put that turd right on the ground and make him look at it permalink fedilink source parent
[β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I canβt fathom Well, theory of mind is a skill. Fine. Maybe an analogy will help. If you say X = 2 and I say that it does not, does that mean I am saying it is equal to 3? You made an assertion, I reject your assertion, that doesn't mean anything else. A does not imply B in this case. Unskilled labor does not mean it should be done for free. No one is saying that, except you. Because that strawman is able to defeat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Work is activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result. Something unskilled isn't work. Not sure what's so hard to understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) My dude, are you seriously in here arguing that unskilled labor doesn't deserve pay? Wow, how vile. Good troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) They actually have something of a point here. They're essentially arguing unskilled work doesn't exist. They're saying all work is skilled work. They're saying the very notion of unskilled is a fantasy used to excuse not paying for certain work. They even implied the opposite of what you claimed, by insulting people who use the term unskilled to justify unpaid work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm going to be honest with you, I really don't have a stake in this argument. The only reason I'm following him around and antagonizing him is to show him how ridiculous it is to assert that the social contract we all share isn't necessary. He made it a point to declare his right to be an asshole and also explained that his purpose of existence is soley to be intolerant towards tolerant people, in the name of cynically proving that any person who claims to be tolerant actually isn't. All this on a post ironically about the paradox of tolerance. And that's when I looked at his profile and noticed he's just kind of an asshole to everyone. So I'm agitating him to demonstrate that you can't just skirt the conversational norms we all abide by and troll in the name of your right to be an asshole. It's kind of petty, I know. But I'm not really concerned with representing his argument honestly, since intellectual honesty is something he doesn't abide by either by his own declaration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I don't really care what this guy did in a different thread. In this thread, they're making a good point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) And before you say it, I'm also aware that the point is going to fly over his head. I just enjoy messing with trolls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago* I also generally agree with this treatment of trolls.But I also think defending workers from insult is important. permalink fedilink source parent [+] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Yes I just wrote this, everything that gets pay today is in fact more than unskilled. Go fuck yourself you retarded clown, you literally entertain me for free and don't even see the irony in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ooo look, a more pointed insult. You know, the fool is the one who responds to the clown, not the clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know, keep responding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So which are you? The clown or the fool? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did he mean by this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent [β] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Please remain civil. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Oh not going to defend your old argument anymore? This is the skill of deflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* This guy's account is 8 hours old with 100+ comments, and every single one that's addressing a reply to something he said is a deflection. He's a troll teaching a masterclass on deflection. permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't need to defend anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course you don't. Who actually follows the rules of discourse anyway? Don't like that you can't defend your point adequately? Just quit! Bravo my friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did I also forget to sign some terms of service before replying to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, you made it very clear earlier that you don't do social contracts. I'm just making sure other people know that too. Like, "Hey, this guy's not gonna argue with you in good faith. He literally said that he doesn't have to defend points he makes" Why should people waste their time on you? It's only fair to warn them, you know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please tell me what else I don't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah you don't. Deflecting, strawmanning, goal post moving, +100 on an account created 8 hours ago. Don't defend any of it. I changed my mind. I want you to leave this turd on the ground where everyone can see it and see who left it there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My original point stands, don't forget moving it anywhere. Just because you're mindbroken by me being able to post more than you can in your day on Antiwork of all places, doesn't mean that it's my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Nice! Break that fool, you're such a dominant troll. You put that turd right on the ground and make him look at it permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Work is activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result. Something unskilled isn't work. Not sure what's so hard to understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) My dude, are you seriously in here arguing that unskilled labor doesn't deserve pay? Wow, how vile. Good troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) They actually have something of a point here. They're essentially arguing unskilled work doesn't exist. They're saying all work is skilled work. They're saying the very notion of unskilled is a fantasy used to excuse not paying for certain work. They even implied the opposite of what you claimed, by insulting people who use the term unskilled to justify unpaid work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm going to be honest with you, I really don't have a stake in this argument. The only reason I'm following him around and antagonizing him is to show him how ridiculous it is to assert that the social contract we all share isn't necessary. He made it a point to declare his right to be an asshole and also explained that his purpose of existence is soley to be intolerant towards tolerant people, in the name of cynically proving that any person who claims to be tolerant actually isn't. All this on a post ironically about the paradox of tolerance. And that's when I looked at his profile and noticed he's just kind of an asshole to everyone. So I'm agitating him to demonstrate that you can't just skirt the conversational norms we all abide by and troll in the name of your right to be an asshole. It's kind of petty, I know. But I'm not really concerned with representing his argument honestly, since intellectual honesty is something he doesn't abide by either by his own declaration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I don't really care what this guy did in a different thread. In this thread, they're making a good point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) And before you say it, I'm also aware that the point is going to fly over his head. I just enjoy messing with trolls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago* I also generally agree with this treatment of trolls.But I also think defending workers from insult is important. permalink fedilink source parent [+] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Yes I just wrote this, everything that gets pay today is in fact more than unskilled. Go fuck yourself you retarded clown, you literally entertain me for free and don't even see the irony in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ooo look, a more pointed insult. You know, the fool is the one who responds to the clown, not the clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know, keep responding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So which are you? The clown or the fool? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did he mean by this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent [β] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Please remain civil. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Oh not going to defend your old argument anymore? This is the skill of deflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* This guy's account is 8 hours old with 100+ comments, and every single one that's addressing a reply to something he said is a deflection. He's a troll teaching a masterclass on deflection. permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't need to defend anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course you don't. Who actually follows the rules of discourse anyway? Don't like that you can't defend your point adequately? Just quit! Bravo my friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did I also forget to sign some terms of service before replying to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, you made it very clear earlier that you don't do social contracts. I'm just making sure other people know that too. Like, "Hey, this guy's not gonna argue with you in good faith. He literally said that he doesn't have to defend points he makes" Why should people waste their time on you? It's only fair to warn them, you know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please tell me what else I don't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah you don't. Deflecting, strawmanning, goal post moving, +100 on an account created 8 hours ago. Don't defend any of it. I changed my mind. I want you to leave this turd on the ground where everyone can see it and see who left it there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My original point stands, don't forget moving it anywhere. Just because you're mindbroken by me being able to post more than you can in your day on Antiwork of all places, doesn't mean that it's my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Nice! Break that fool, you're such a dominant troll. You put that turd right on the ground and make him look at it permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) My dude, are you seriously in here arguing that unskilled labor doesn't deserve pay? Wow, how vile. Good troll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) They actually have something of a point here. They're essentially arguing unskilled work doesn't exist. They're saying all work is skilled work. They're saying the very notion of unskilled is a fantasy used to excuse not paying for certain work. They even implied the opposite of what you claimed, by insulting people who use the term unskilled to justify unpaid work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm going to be honest with you, I really don't have a stake in this argument. The only reason I'm following him around and antagonizing him is to show him how ridiculous it is to assert that the social contract we all share isn't necessary. He made it a point to declare his right to be an asshole and also explained that his purpose of existence is soley to be intolerant towards tolerant people, in the name of cynically proving that any person who claims to be tolerant actually isn't. All this on a post ironically about the paradox of tolerance. And that's when I looked at his profile and noticed he's just kind of an asshole to everyone. So I'm agitating him to demonstrate that you can't just skirt the conversational norms we all abide by and troll in the name of your right to be an asshole. It's kind of petty, I know. But I'm not really concerned with representing his argument honestly, since intellectual honesty is something he doesn't abide by either by his own declaration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I don't really care what this guy did in a different thread. In this thread, they're making a good point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) And before you say it, I'm also aware that the point is going to fly over his head. I just enjoy messing with trolls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago* I also generally agree with this treatment of trolls.But I also think defending workers from insult is important. permalink fedilink source parent [+] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Yes I just wrote this, everything that gets pay today is in fact more than unskilled. Go fuck yourself you retarded clown, you literally entertain me for free and don't even see the irony in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ooo look, a more pointed insult. You know, the fool is the one who responds to the clown, not the clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know, keep responding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So which are you? The clown or the fool? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did he mean by this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent [β] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Please remain civil. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) They actually have something of a point here. They're essentially arguing unskilled work doesn't exist. They're saying all work is skilled work. They're saying the very notion of unskilled is a fantasy used to excuse not paying for certain work. They even implied the opposite of what you claimed, by insulting people who use the term unskilled to justify unpaid work... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm going to be honest with you, I really don't have a stake in this argument. The only reason I'm following him around and antagonizing him is to show him how ridiculous it is to assert that the social contract we all share isn't necessary. He made it a point to declare his right to be an asshole and also explained that his purpose of existence is soley to be intolerant towards tolerant people, in the name of cynically proving that any person who claims to be tolerant actually isn't. All this on a post ironically about the paradox of tolerance. And that's when I looked at his profile and noticed he's just kind of an asshole to everyone. So I'm agitating him to demonstrate that you can't just skirt the conversational norms we all abide by and troll in the name of your right to be an asshole. It's kind of petty, I know. But I'm not really concerned with representing his argument honestly, since intellectual honesty is something he doesn't abide by either by his own declaration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I don't really care what this guy did in a different thread. In this thread, they're making a good point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) And before you say it, I'm also aware that the point is going to fly over his head. I just enjoy messing with trolls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago* I also generally agree with this treatment of trolls.But I also think defending workers from insult is important. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm going to be honest with you, I really don't have a stake in this argument. The only reason I'm following him around and antagonizing him is to show him how ridiculous it is to assert that the social contract we all share isn't necessary. He made it a point to declare his right to be an asshole and also explained that his purpose of existence is soley to be intolerant towards tolerant people, in the name of cynically proving that any person who claims to be tolerant actually isn't. All this on a post ironically about the paradox of tolerance. And that's when I looked at his profile and noticed he's just kind of an asshole to everyone. So I'm agitating him to demonstrate that you can't just skirt the conversational norms we all abide by and troll in the name of your right to be an asshole. It's kind of petty, I know. But I'm not really concerned with representing his argument honestly, since intellectual honesty is something he doesn't abide by either by his own declaration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I don't really care what this guy did in a different thread. In this thread, they're making a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago I don't really care what this guy did in a different thread. In this thread, they're making a good point. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) And before you say it, I'm also aware that the point is going to fly over his head. I just enjoy messing with trolls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago* I also generally agree with this treatment of trolls.But I also think defending workers from insult is important. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago* I also generally agree with this treatment of trolls.But I also think defending workers from insult is important. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Yes I just wrote this, everything that gets pay today is in fact more than unskilled. Go fuck yourself you retarded clown, you literally entertain me for free and don't even see the irony in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ooo look, a more pointed insult. You know, the fool is the one who responds to the clown, not the clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know, keep responding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So which are you? The clown or the fool? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did he mean by this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent [β] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Please remain civil. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ooo look, a more pointed insult. You know, the fool is the one who responds to the clown, not the clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know, keep responding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So which are you? The clown or the fool? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did he mean by this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know, keep responding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So which are you? The clown or the fool? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did he mean by this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So which are you? The clown or the fool? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did he mean by this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What did he mean by this... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Not keeping up with a sime question over like 3 comments? Come on, you're better than that troll. Say something clever! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Please remain civil. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Oh not going to defend your old argument anymore? This is the skill of deflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* This guy's account is 8 hours old with 100+ comments, and every single one that's addressing a reply to something he said is a deflection. He's a troll teaching a masterclass on deflection. permalink fedilink source parent [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't need to defend anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course you don't. Who actually follows the rules of discourse anyway? Don't like that you can't defend your point adequately? Just quit! Bravo my friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did I also forget to sign some terms of service before replying to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, you made it very clear earlier that you don't do social contracts. I'm just making sure other people know that too. Like, "Hey, this guy's not gonna argue with you in good faith. He literally said that he doesn't have to defend points he makes" Why should people waste their time on you? It's only fair to warn them, you know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please tell me what else I don't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah you don't. Deflecting, strawmanning, goal post moving, +100 on an account created 8 hours ago. Don't defend any of it. I changed my mind. I want you to leave this turd on the ground where everyone can see it and see who left it there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My original point stands, don't forget moving it anywhere. Just because you're mindbroken by me being able to post more than you can in your day on Antiwork of all places, doesn't mean that it's my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Nice! Break that fool, you're such a dominant troll. You put that turd right on the ground and make him look at it permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* This guy's account is 8 hours old with 100+ comments, and every single one that's addressing a reply to something he said is a deflection. He's a troll teaching a masterclass on deflection. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't need to defend anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course you don't. Who actually follows the rules of discourse anyway? Don't like that you can't defend your point adequately? Just quit! Bravo my friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did I also forget to sign some terms of service before replying to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, you made it very clear earlier that you don't do social contracts. I'm just making sure other people know that too. Like, "Hey, this guy's not gonna argue with you in good faith. He literally said that he doesn't have to defend points he makes" Why should people waste their time on you? It's only fair to warn them, you know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please tell me what else I don't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah you don't. Deflecting, strawmanning, goal post moving, +100 on an account created 8 hours ago. Don't defend any of it. I changed my mind. I want you to leave this turd on the ground where everyone can see it and see who left it there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My original point stands, don't forget moving it anywhere. Just because you're mindbroken by me being able to post more than you can in your day on Antiwork of all places, doesn't mean that it's my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Nice! Break that fool, you're such a dominant troll. You put that turd right on the ground and make him look at it permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course you don't. Who actually follows the rules of discourse anyway? Don't like that you can't defend your point adequately? Just quit! Bravo my friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did I also forget to sign some terms of service before replying to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, you made it very clear earlier that you don't do social contracts. I'm just making sure other people know that too. Like, "Hey, this guy's not gonna argue with you in good faith. He literally said that he doesn't have to defend points he makes" Why should people waste their time on you? It's only fair to warn them, you know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please tell me what else I don't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did I also forget to sign some terms of service before replying to you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, you made it very clear earlier that you don't do social contracts. I'm just making sure other people know that too. Like, "Hey, this guy's not gonna argue with you in good faith. He literally said that he doesn't have to defend points he makes" Why should people waste their time on you? It's only fair to warn them, you know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please tell me what else I don't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, you made it very clear earlier that you don't do social contracts. I'm just making sure other people know that too. Like, "Hey, this guy's not gonna argue with you in good faith. He literally said that he doesn't have to defend points he makes" Why should people waste their time on you? It's only fair to warn them, you know permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please tell me what else I don't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please tell me what else I don't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not my job. You're doing a great job demonstrating for me though. I'm just along for the ride permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) So true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago π This is what he says when he's out of insults. Love this guy permalink fedilink source parent
[β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah you don't. Deflecting, strawmanning, goal post moving, +100 on an account created 8 hours ago. Don't defend any of it. I changed my mind. I want you to leave this turd on the ground where everyone can see it and see who left it there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My original point stands, don't forget moving it anywhere. Just because you're mindbroken by me being able to post more than you can in your day on Antiwork of all places, doesn't mean that it's my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Nice! Break that fool, you're such a dominant troll. You put that turd right on the ground and make him look at it permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mayoi@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) My original point stands, don't forget moving it anywhere. Just because you're mindbroken by me being able to post more than you can in your day on Antiwork of all places, doesn't mean that it's my problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Nice! Break that fool, you're such a dominant troll. You put that turd right on the ground and make him look at it permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Nice! Break that fool, you're such a dominant troll. You put that turd right on the ground and make him look at it permalink fedilink source parent
[β] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have a master's degree, but I can honestly say working at Wendy's took just as much skill as what I do now. "People" who use terms like "unskilled labor" are part of the problem. There's no such thing as "unskilled labor." I'm agreeing with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I only have a bachelor's degree and can honestly say that there is no way I can do my job without it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I only have a bachelor's degree and can honestly say that there is no way I can do my job without it. permalink fedilink source parent