▲ 1613 ▼ Anti Homeless Architecture (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by Clbull@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml 102 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [Citation needed] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/san-franciscos-failed-experiment-of-homeless-hotels-is-a-cautionary-tale/ https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/la-hotel-converted-to-homeless-housing-suffers-11-5-million-in-damages/ https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/08/30/homeless-squatters-trash-casper-hotel-getting-out-of-hand-mayor-says/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) New York Post Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: USA Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: Newspaper Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY Washington Free Beacon Bias Rating: RIGHT Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: USA Press Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: Website Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY Cowboy State Daily - Not yet rated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) there is little incentive for left wing rags to report on these topics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah the sources you provided all love to shit on California while conveniently forgetting how great its economy is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) and how is that relevant? can homelessness be a problem and the economy be good at the same time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I thought we were discussing homelessness and homes to be honest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So what's your point then, that homeless people are a lost cause and therefore shouldn't be helped? Attempts to house the homeless have resulted in property damage in the past, so we shouldn't bother? Perhaps you should take a step back and try asking why those projects failed and how to fix the problems instead of concluding that free housing programs could never work. If you really want to analyze the situation with some nuance then maybe try looking at real sources instead of opinion articles from right-wing "news" sites: https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/howardcenter/caring-for-covid-homeless/stories/homeless-funding-housing-first.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3151537/ https://www.bluecrossmafoundation.org/publication/preventive-effect-housing-first-health-care-utilization-and-costs-among-chronically https://nyuscholars.nyu.edu/en/publications/employment-experiences-of-formerly-homeless-adults-with-serious-m permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago My point is that a lot of homeless people aren't to be trusted to take care of the space they live in. There would have to be some screening to make sure that these people are capable of not destroying the public good they are being offered for free. I don't think it's really debatable that there are some truly awful homeless people, violent, mean, entitled, and not fit to live in a proper society. It's something people need to face the facts on. So we need to find out how to help the good homeless people before we let the bad ones ruin it for the rest of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cricket98@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (2 children) https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/san-franciscos-failed-experiment-of-homeless-hotels-is-a-cautionary-tale/ https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/la-hotel-converted-to-homeless-housing-suffers-11-5-million-in-damages/ https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/08/30/homeless-squatters-trash-casper-hotel-getting-out-of-hand-mayor-says/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) New York Post Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: USA Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: Newspaper Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY Washington Free Beacon Bias Rating: RIGHT Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: USA Press Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: Website Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY Cowboy State Daily - Not yet rated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) there is little incentive for left wing rags to report on these topics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah the sources you provided all love to shit on California while conveniently forgetting how great its economy is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) and how is that relevant? can homelessness be a problem and the economy be good at the same time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I thought we were discussing homelessness and homes to be honest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So what's your point then, that homeless people are a lost cause and therefore shouldn't be helped? Attempts to house the homeless have resulted in property damage in the past, so we shouldn't bother? Perhaps you should take a step back and try asking why those projects failed and how to fix the problems instead of concluding that free housing programs could never work. If you really want to analyze the situation with some nuance then maybe try looking at real sources instead of opinion articles from right-wing "news" sites: https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/howardcenter/caring-for-covid-homeless/stories/homeless-funding-housing-first.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3151537/ https://www.bluecrossmafoundation.org/publication/preventive-effect-housing-first-health-care-utilization-and-costs-among-chronically https://nyuscholars.nyu.edu/en/publications/employment-experiences-of-formerly-homeless-adults-with-serious-m permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago My point is that a lot of homeless people aren't to be trusted to take care of the space they live in. There would have to be some screening to make sure that these people are capable of not destroying the public good they are being offered for free. I don't think it's really debatable that there are some truly awful homeless people, violent, mean, entitled, and not fit to live in a proper society. It's something people need to face the facts on. So we need to find out how to help the good homeless people before we let the bad ones ruin it for the rest of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) New York Post Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: USA Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: Newspaper Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY Washington Free Beacon Bias Rating: RIGHT Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: USA Press Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: Website Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY Cowboy State Daily - Not yet rated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) there is little incentive for left wing rags to report on these topics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah the sources you provided all love to shit on California while conveniently forgetting how great its economy is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) and how is that relevant? can homelessness be a problem and the economy be good at the same time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I thought we were discussing homelessness and homes to be honest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cricket98@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) there is little incentive for left wing rags to report on these topics permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah the sources you provided all love to shit on California while conveniently forgetting how great its economy is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) and how is that relevant? can homelessness be a problem and the economy be good at the same time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I thought we were discussing homelessness and homes to be honest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah the sources you provided all love to shit on California while conveniently forgetting how great its economy is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) and how is that relevant? can homelessness be a problem and the economy be good at the same time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I thought we were discussing homelessness and homes to be honest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cricket98@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) and how is that relevant? can homelessness be a problem and the economy be good at the same time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I thought we were discussing homelessness and homes to be honest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I thought we were discussing homelessness and homes to be honest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So what's your point then, that homeless people are a lost cause and therefore shouldn't be helped? Attempts to house the homeless have resulted in property damage in the past, so we shouldn't bother? Perhaps you should take a step back and try asking why those projects failed and how to fix the problems instead of concluding that free housing programs could never work. If you really want to analyze the situation with some nuance then maybe try looking at real sources instead of opinion articles from right-wing "news" sites: https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/howardcenter/caring-for-covid-homeless/stories/homeless-funding-housing-first.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3151537/ https://www.bluecrossmafoundation.org/publication/preventive-effect-housing-first-health-care-utilization-and-costs-among-chronically https://nyuscholars.nyu.edu/en/publications/employment-experiences-of-formerly-homeless-adults-with-serious-m permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cricket98@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago My point is that a lot of homeless people aren't to be trusted to take care of the space they live in. There would have to be some screening to make sure that these people are capable of not destroying the public good they are being offered for free. I don't think it's really debatable that there are some truly awful homeless people, violent, mean, entitled, and not fit to live in a proper society. It's something people need to face the facts on. So we need to find out how to help the good homeless people before we let the bad ones ruin it for the rest of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cricket98@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago My point is that a lot of homeless people aren't to be trusted to take care of the space they live in. There would have to be some screening to make sure that these people are capable of not destroying the public good they are being offered for free. I don't think it's really debatable that there are some truly awful homeless people, violent, mean, entitled, and not fit to live in a proper society. It's something people need to face the facts on. So we need to find out how to help the good homeless people before we let the bad ones ruin it for the rest of them. permalink fedilink source parent