▲ 2189 ▼ Capitalism is killing our planet (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 years ago by Grayox@lemmy.ml to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world 460 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think many of the socialist states of Asia and Eastern Europe are or were ridiculously corrupt. How democratic those were is of course questionable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I meant that it wasn't really very resistant to corruption. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure even that is true. Not sure how you can even really measure that. Or do you mean it could theoretically be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What do you feel was the reason that the corruption was so high in Eastern European socialist states? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it's corrupt vs non-corrupt but about the level of corruption permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That does seem fair permalink fedilink source parent [–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) There was never socialism in Asia or Eastern Europe. At no point have the workers seized the means of production and had a dictatorship of the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rchive@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You can apply this No True Scotsman logic to capitalism, too. Its biggest fans say True capitalism has never been tried, either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think many of the socialist states of Asia and Eastern Europe are or were ridiculously corrupt. How democratic those were is of course questionable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I meant that it wasn't really very resistant to corruption. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure even that is true. Not sure how you can even really measure that. Or do you mean it could theoretically be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What do you feel was the reason that the corruption was so high in Eastern European socialist states? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it's corrupt vs non-corrupt but about the level of corruption permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That does seem fair permalink fedilink source parent [–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) There was never socialism in Asia or Eastern Europe. At no point have the workers seized the means of production and had a dictatorship of the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rchive@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You can apply this No True Scotsman logic to capitalism, too. Its biggest fans say True capitalism has never been tried, either. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I meant that it wasn't really very resistant to corruption. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure even that is true. Not sure how you can even really measure that. Or do you mean it could theoretically be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What do you feel was the reason that the corruption was so high in Eastern European socialist states? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it's corrupt vs non-corrupt but about the level of corruption permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That does seem fair permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I meant that it wasn't really very resistant to corruption. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure even that is true. Not sure how you can even really measure that. Or do you mean it could theoretically be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What do you feel was the reason that the corruption was so high in Eastern European socialist states? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it's corrupt vs non-corrupt but about the level of corruption permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That does seem fair permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure even that is true. Not sure how you can even really measure that. Or do you mean it could theoretically be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What do you feel was the reason that the corruption was so high in Eastern European socialist states? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it's corrupt vs non-corrupt but about the level of corruption permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That does seem fair permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure even that is true. Not sure how you can even really measure that. Or do you mean it could theoretically be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What do you feel was the reason that the corruption was so high in Eastern European socialist states? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it's corrupt vs non-corrupt but about the level of corruption permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That does seem fair permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What do you feel was the reason that the corruption was so high in Eastern European socialist states? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it's corrupt vs non-corrupt but about the level of corruption permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That does seem fair permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) What do you feel was the reason that the corruption was so high in Eastern European socialist states? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it's corrupt vs non-corrupt but about the level of corruption permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That does seem fair permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it's corrupt vs non-corrupt but about the level of corruption permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That does seem fair permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think it's corrupt vs non-corrupt but about the level of corruption permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That does seem fair permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago That does seem fair permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) There was never socialism in Asia or Eastern Europe. At no point have the workers seized the means of production and had a dictatorship of the proletariat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rchive@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You can apply this No True Scotsman logic to capitalism, too. Its biggest fans say True capitalism has never been tried, either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rchive@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You can apply this No True Scotsman logic to capitalism, too. Its biggest fans say True capitalism has never been tried, either. permalink fedilink source parent
