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[–] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I doubt it. True random shuffle play is rare, because humans don't understand the chaos of true random generation, we see patterns in it and assume it's not random.

A truly random shuffle can play the same song twice. A truly random shuffle can play multiple songs from the same artist in a row. In the fullness of time all of these will happen with a true random shuffle.

Nothing does that these days. Nearly everything "random" is algorithmically engineered to be less random so it feels more random to humans.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You can definitely make a truly random shuffle that doesn’t play the same song twice within a gap of ten songs.

    You just make a list of all the song IDs that aren’t in the last ten played, and grab an item at a random index.

    Randomness is a texture not a shape. Dice are random despite only being able to present six outcomes.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    But then it is not truly random, that is the point.

    The same song 10 times in a row also has a chance of happening in a truly random list.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Random pick without replacement is no less random than random pick with replacement. You just have a continuously smaller pool to pick from.

    It's absolutely possible to have better randomness/shuffle without repeating songs so often.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    A truly random shuffle can play the same song twice. A truly random shuffle can play multiple songs from the same artist in a row. In the fullness of time all of these will happen with a true random shuffle. Nothing does that these days.

    Tidal does and it's annoying af.

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