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[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Both sides are terrorists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No, we can condemn both sides without calling it all terrorism. That's just plain stupid. Terrorism is a specific tactic and just because you don't like what a conventional military is doing doesn't make it terrorism. It's worthwhile to maintain our definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims Open season on hospitals, refugee camps and journalists seems it’s fits. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Redrum714@lemm.ee -14 points 2 years ago (2 children) TIL defending yourself from terrorists makes you a terrorist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) Bombing hospitals and ambulance convoys makes you a terrorist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TechDiver@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago That specific ambulance was taken from the people of Gaza by hamas. Not only did hamas use it for transporting their terrorists they also robbed the people of gaza of said ambulance permalink fedilink source parent [+] Redrum714@lemm.ee -20 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not when those targets are occupied by terrorists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) If a killer hides in your house, is it right for the whole house to be bombed? Or are you now a terrorist by virtue of proximity? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) If there's a criminal hiding in a crowd, how many people can a cop shoot through to make sure the criminal doesnt get away? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The fact that you just asked that question legitimately kind of scares me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You get I was trying to make an analogy right? That it would be ridiculous for police to do that but it's Israel's MO permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Ah. My apologies. Missed that ^_^ permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Depends on the caliber of their gun, whether they're using frag bullets or not, and how many spare mags did they bring with themselves...... wait, you meant "can", or "should be allowed to"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 years ago if a criminal stole my child, I'm shooting trough every random person i need permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Ah, the "Moscow theater hostage crisis" school of collateral damage avoidance. Real good model to follow, that one... permalink fedilink source parent [–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not think the innocent Palestinians are terrified? Justify the killing of innocent people by saying they killed one man makes you no better than the terrorists that started this latest conflict. Before you inevitably bring up that well Hamas are the ruling power, therefore the people must support them. Remember that the vast majority of people weren’t even alive when Hamas took power, and even then it was a narrow win. I find you abhorrent for trying to defend any kind of terrorism, even if you believe in the cause. No life is worth more than any other, you sick fucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -13 points 2 years ago The issue is that hamas purposely is using their civilians to shield themselves. Isreal can only do so much to try and hit only hamas members, but war isn't that clean, no matter how much we wish it was. Yup, lots of evil all around, and there are some sick fucks in the IDF. But they're not using their own civilians and shields. Like, forcing them to stay in place so they're assured to die. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No, we can condemn both sides without calling it all terrorism. That's just plain stupid. Terrorism is a specific tactic and just because you don't like what a conventional military is doing doesn't make it terrorism. It's worthwhile to maintain our definitions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims Open season on hospitals, refugee camps and journalists seems it’s fits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims Open season on hospitals, refugee camps and journalists seems it’s fits. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Redrum714@lemm.ee -14 points 2 years ago (2 children) TIL defending yourself from terrorists makes you a terrorist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) Bombing hospitals and ambulance convoys makes you a terrorist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TechDiver@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago That specific ambulance was taken from the people of Gaza by hamas. Not only did hamas use it for transporting their terrorists they also robbed the people of gaza of said ambulance permalink fedilink source parent [+] Redrum714@lemm.ee -20 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not when those targets are occupied by terrorists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) If a killer hides in your house, is it right for the whole house to be bombed? Or are you now a terrorist by virtue of proximity? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) If there's a criminal hiding in a crowd, how many people can a cop shoot through to make sure the criminal doesnt get away? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The fact that you just asked that question legitimately kind of scares me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You get I was trying to make an analogy right? That it would be ridiculous for police to do that but it's Israel's MO permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Ah. My apologies. Missed that ^_^ permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Depends on the caliber of their gun, whether they're using frag bullets or not, and how many spare mags did they bring with themselves...... wait, you meant "can", or "should be allowed to"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 years ago if a criminal stole my child, I'm shooting trough every random person i need permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Ah, the "Moscow theater hostage crisis" school of collateral damage avoidance. Real good model to follow, that one... permalink fedilink source parent [–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not think the innocent Palestinians are terrified? Justify the killing of innocent people by saying they killed one man makes you no better than the terrorists that started this latest conflict. Before you inevitably bring up that well Hamas are the ruling power, therefore the people must support them. Remember that the vast majority of people weren’t even alive when Hamas took power, and even then it was a narrow win. I find you abhorrent for trying to defend any kind of terrorism, even if you believe in the cause. No life is worth more than any other, you sick fucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -13 points 2 years ago The issue is that hamas purposely is using their civilians to shield themselves. Isreal can only do so much to try and hit only hamas members, but war isn't that clean, no matter how much we wish it was. Yup, lots of evil all around, and there are some sick fucks in the IDF. But they're not using their own civilians and shields. Like, forcing them to stay in place so they're assured to die. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hello_there@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) Bombing hospitals and ambulance convoys makes you a terrorist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TechDiver@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago That specific ambulance was taken from the people of Gaza by hamas. Not only did hamas use it for transporting their terrorists they also robbed the people of gaza of said ambulance permalink fedilink source parent [+] Redrum714@lemm.ee -20 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not when those targets are occupied by terrorists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) If a killer hides in your house, is it right for the whole house to be bombed? Or are you now a terrorist by virtue of proximity? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) If there's a criminal hiding in a crowd, how many people can a cop shoot through to make sure the criminal doesnt get away? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The fact that you just asked that question legitimately kind of scares me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You get I was trying to make an analogy right? That it would be ridiculous for police to do that but it's Israel's MO permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Ah. My apologies. Missed that ^_^ permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Depends on the caliber of their gun, whether they're using frag bullets or not, and how many spare mags did they bring with themselves...... wait, you meant "can", or "should be allowed to"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 years ago if a criminal stole my child, I'm shooting trough every random person i need permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Ah, the "Moscow theater hostage crisis" school of collateral damage avoidance. Real good model to follow, that one... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TechDiver@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago That specific ambulance was taken from the people of Gaza by hamas. Not only did hamas use it for transporting their terrorists they also robbed the people of gaza of said ambulance permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Redrum714@lemm.ee -20 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not when those targets are occupied by terrorists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) If a killer hides in your house, is it right for the whole house to be bombed? Or are you now a terrorist by virtue of proximity? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) If there's a criminal hiding in a crowd, how many people can a cop shoot through to make sure the criminal doesnt get away? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The fact that you just asked that question legitimately kind of scares me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You get I was trying to make an analogy right? That it would be ridiculous for police to do that but it's Israel's MO permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Ah. My apologies. Missed that ^_^ permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Depends on the caliber of their gun, whether they're using frag bullets or not, and how many spare mags did they bring with themselves...... wait, you meant "can", or "should be allowed to"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 years ago if a criminal stole my child, I'm shooting trough every random person i need permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Ah, the "Moscow theater hostage crisis" school of collateral damage avoidance. Real good model to follow, that one... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) If a killer hides in your house, is it right for the whole house to be bombed? Or are you now a terrorist by virtue of proximity? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) If there's a criminal hiding in a crowd, how many people can a cop shoot through to make sure the criminal doesnt get away? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The fact that you just asked that question legitimately kind of scares me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You get I was trying to make an analogy right? That it would be ridiculous for police to do that but it's Israel's MO permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Ah. My apologies. Missed that ^_^ permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Depends on the caliber of their gun, whether they're using frag bullets or not, and how many spare mags did they bring with themselves...... wait, you meant "can", or "should be allowed to"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 years ago if a criminal stole my child, I'm shooting trough every random person i need permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) If there's a criminal hiding in a crowd, how many people can a cop shoot through to make sure the criminal doesnt get away? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The fact that you just asked that question legitimately kind of scares me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You get I was trying to make an analogy right? That it would be ridiculous for police to do that but it's Israel's MO permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Ah. My apologies. Missed that ^_^ permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Depends on the caliber of their gun, whether they're using frag bullets or not, and how many spare mags did they bring with themselves...... wait, you meant "can", or "should be allowed to"? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 years ago if a criminal stole my child, I'm shooting trough every random person i need permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) The fact that you just asked that question legitimately kind of scares me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You get I was trying to make an analogy right? That it would be ridiculous for police to do that but it's Israel's MO permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Ah. My apologies. Missed that ^_^ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hello_there@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You get I was trying to make an analogy right? That it would be ridiculous for police to do that but it's Israel's MO permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Ah. My apologies. Missed that ^_^ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Ah. My apologies. Missed that ^_^ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Depends on the caliber of their gun, whether they're using frag bullets or not, and how many spare mags did they bring with themselves...... wait, you meant "can", or "should be allowed to"? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 years ago if a criminal stole my child, I'm shooting trough every random person i need permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Ah, the "Moscow theater hostage crisis" school of collateral damage avoidance. Real good model to follow, that one... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you not think the innocent Palestinians are terrified? Justify the killing of innocent people by saying they killed one man makes you no better than the terrorists that started this latest conflict. Before you inevitably bring up that well Hamas are the ruling power, therefore the people must support them. Remember that the vast majority of people weren’t even alive when Hamas took power, and even then it was a narrow win. I find you abhorrent for trying to defend any kind of terrorism, even if you believe in the cause. No life is worth more than any other, you sick fucks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -13 points 2 years ago The issue is that hamas purposely is using their civilians to shield themselves. Isreal can only do so much to try and hit only hamas members, but war isn't that clean, no matter how much we wish it was. Yup, lots of evil all around, and there are some sick fucks in the IDF. But they're not using their own civilians and shields. Like, forcing them to stay in place so they're assured to die. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -13 points 2 years ago The issue is that hamas purposely is using their civilians to shield themselves. Isreal can only do so much to try and hit only hamas members, but war isn't that clean, no matter how much we wish it was. Yup, lots of evil all around, and there are some sick fucks in the IDF. But they're not using their own civilians and shields. Like, forcing them to stay in place so they're assured to die. permalink fedilink source parent