▲ 12 ▼ lemmy instances be going down (sh.itjust.works) submitted 3 years ago* by pornhubfan@sh.itjust.works to c/memes@sopuli.xyz 25 comments fedilink hide all child comments At least I subscribed to !memes@sopuli.xyz
[–] Mewtwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Don't subscribe to lemmy.ml, the owner is a pro CCP. I unsubbed from all .ml communities. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) People are allowed to support whatever political causes they wish, so long as they are willing to engage civilly and fairly with other people. This is how the modern world works, with dialogue and debate instead of censorship, cowardly avoidance and control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whats_a_refoogee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't believe that you're consistent on this position. I would be incredibly shocked if you had the same stance towards white supremacists, Nazis, or pedophiles that want to remove age of consent. If you do, then cheers. You're practically a unicorn (in the sense that it's extremely rare). I don't disagree with that position as long as it's consistant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I disagree with what you say, but will defend to death your right to say it. If you don't hear that often, find better friends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago That's a very naive view, and ignores the existence of legitimately harmful opinions that must be fought permalink fedilink source parent [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, people are also absolutely free to choose not to associate with, use services from people whose opinions they find objectionable etc. Nothing wrong with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Of course they are. But once they start telling other people what to do, they are doing a different thing from that, are they not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) They're just expressing an opinion just like the Lemmy devs have. (note: I have not looked into what their views are exactly so I'm not saying parent poster is correct) Nobody is being forced to do what they suggest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It wasn't an opinion, but a direction. "I dislike lemmy.ml because it is run by communists" is an opinion. "Don't go to lemmy.ml" isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) At the end of the day it is just an opinion even if it is in the form of a direction because the one giving it has no real influence on or ability to make the readers do it and they know it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Directions don't only become directions when you have power. They're just ineffective if you don't have it. Doesn't mean you're not at least trying to control people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's really arguing about insignificant semantics just concerning the form and not the actual implications of the message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That is not semantics whatsoever. "Don't open that door" is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) People are allowed to support whatever political causes they wish, so long as they are willing to engage civilly and fairly with other people. This is how the modern world works, with dialogue and debate instead of censorship, cowardly avoidance and control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] whats_a_refoogee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't believe that you're consistent on this position. I would be incredibly shocked if you had the same stance towards white supremacists, Nazis, or pedophiles that want to remove age of consent. If you do, then cheers. You're practically a unicorn (in the sense that it's extremely rare). I don't disagree with that position as long as it's consistant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I disagree with what you say, but will defend to death your right to say it. If you don't hear that often, find better friends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago That's a very naive view, and ignores the existence of legitimately harmful opinions that must be fought permalink fedilink source parent [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, people are also absolutely free to choose not to associate with, use services from people whose opinions they find objectionable etc. Nothing wrong with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Of course they are. But once they start telling other people what to do, they are doing a different thing from that, are they not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) They're just expressing an opinion just like the Lemmy devs have. (note: I have not looked into what their views are exactly so I'm not saying parent poster is correct) Nobody is being forced to do what they suggest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It wasn't an opinion, but a direction. "I dislike lemmy.ml because it is run by communists" is an opinion. "Don't go to lemmy.ml" isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) At the end of the day it is just an opinion even if it is in the form of a direction because the one giving it has no real influence on or ability to make the readers do it and they know it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Directions don't only become directions when you have power. They're just ineffective if you don't have it. Doesn't mean you're not at least trying to control people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's really arguing about insignificant semantics just concerning the form and not the actual implications of the message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That is not semantics whatsoever. "Don't open that door" is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whats_a_refoogee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't believe that you're consistent on this position. I would be incredibly shocked if you had the same stance towards white supremacists, Nazis, or pedophiles that want to remove age of consent. If you do, then cheers. You're practically a unicorn (in the sense that it's extremely rare). I don't disagree with that position as long as it's consistant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I disagree with what you say, but will defend to death your right to say it. If you don't hear that often, find better friends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago That's a very naive view, and ignores the existence of legitimately harmful opinions that must be fought permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I disagree with what you say, but will defend to death your right to say it. If you don't hear that often, find better friends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago That's a very naive view, and ignores the existence of legitimately harmful opinions that must be fought permalink fedilink source parent
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago That's a very naive view, and ignores the existence of legitimately harmful opinions that must be fought permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well, people are also absolutely free to choose not to associate with, use services from people whose opinions they find objectionable etc. Nothing wrong with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Of course they are. But once they start telling other people what to do, they are doing a different thing from that, are they not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) They're just expressing an opinion just like the Lemmy devs have. (note: I have not looked into what their views are exactly so I'm not saying parent poster is correct) Nobody is being forced to do what they suggest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It wasn't an opinion, but a direction. "I dislike lemmy.ml because it is run by communists" is an opinion. "Don't go to lemmy.ml" isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) At the end of the day it is just an opinion even if it is in the form of a direction because the one giving it has no real influence on or ability to make the readers do it and they know it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Directions don't only become directions when you have power. They're just ineffective if you don't have it. Doesn't mean you're not at least trying to control people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's really arguing about insignificant semantics just concerning the form and not the actual implications of the message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That is not semantics whatsoever. "Don't open that door" is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Candelestine@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Of course they are. But once they start telling other people what to do, they are doing a different thing from that, are they not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) They're just expressing an opinion just like the Lemmy devs have. (note: I have not looked into what their views are exactly so I'm not saying parent poster is correct) Nobody is being forced to do what they suggest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It wasn't an opinion, but a direction. "I dislike lemmy.ml because it is run by communists" is an opinion. "Don't go to lemmy.ml" isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) At the end of the day it is just an opinion even if it is in the form of a direction because the one giving it has no real influence on or ability to make the readers do it and they know it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Directions don't only become directions when you have power. They're just ineffective if you don't have it. Doesn't mean you're not at least trying to control people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's really arguing about insignificant semantics just concerning the form and not the actual implications of the message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That is not semantics whatsoever. "Don't open that door" is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) They're just expressing an opinion just like the Lemmy devs have. (note: I have not looked into what their views are exactly so I'm not saying parent poster is correct) Nobody is being forced to do what they suggest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It wasn't an opinion, but a direction. "I dislike lemmy.ml because it is run by communists" is an opinion. "Don't go to lemmy.ml" isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) At the end of the day it is just an opinion even if it is in the form of a direction because the one giving it has no real influence on or ability to make the readers do it and they know it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Directions don't only become directions when you have power. They're just ineffective if you don't have it. Doesn't mean you're not at least trying to control people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's really arguing about insignificant semantics just concerning the form and not the actual implications of the message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That is not semantics whatsoever. "Don't open that door" is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) It wasn't an opinion, but a direction. "I dislike lemmy.ml because it is run by communists" is an opinion. "Don't go to lemmy.ml" isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) At the end of the day it is just an opinion even if it is in the form of a direction because the one giving it has no real influence on or ability to make the readers do it and they know it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Directions don't only become directions when you have power. They're just ineffective if you don't have it. Doesn't mean you're not at least trying to control people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's really arguing about insignificant semantics just concerning the form and not the actual implications of the message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That is not semantics whatsoever. "Don't open that door" is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) At the end of the day it is just an opinion even if it is in the form of a direction because the one giving it has no real influence on or ability to make the readers do it and they know it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Directions don't only become directions when you have power. They're just ineffective if you don't have it. Doesn't mean you're not at least trying to control people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's really arguing about insignificant semantics just concerning the form and not the actual implications of the message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That is not semantics whatsoever. "Don't open that door" is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Directions don't only become directions when you have power. They're just ineffective if you don't have it. Doesn't mean you're not at least trying to control people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's really arguing about insignificant semantics just concerning the form and not the actual implications of the message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That is not semantics whatsoever. "Don't open that door" is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's really arguing about insignificant semantics just concerning the form and not the actual implications of the message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That is not semantics whatsoever. "Don't open that door" is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That is not semantics whatsoever. "Don't open that door" is a direction whether it comes from a stranger or a police officer. Why should anything else be different? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) I can't help you if you refuse to see any difference and don't find this constructive with you at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) There is nothing to "help" me with. You're just stubbornly refusing to see the point. Telling someone to do something is a fucking command. Stop replying to me. This is a command. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago LOL. Yeah, not going to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
