▲ 2290 ▼ I tried. It was exhausting. I'm better now. (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world to c/tumblr@lemmy.world 496 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Arcity@feddit.nl -4 points 2 years ago (3 children) Enlighten me with your examples permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcity@feddit.nl -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, power vacuums permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcity@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Correlation does not equal causation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) World War II. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcity@feddit.nl -2 points 2 years ago Wars especially world wars are a whole lot more involved than just killing politicians. And not every party not even the victors stand to gain anything more than they loose permalink fedilink source parent [–] orrk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) i wanna bet it's going to be "but we fought the Nazis" or some ML revolution shit that has never worked permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) the Russian and Cuban systems primarily changed due to modernization and not anything the system did (don't make the liberal mistake of assuming the advances of modernity are inherent to the system at the time), but China actually got Worse until it "liberalized" its markets and started pulling foreign capital investment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) it's important to look at these kinds of numbers in context, the average life expectancy for the vast majority of Mao's rule was around 30, only going up to 50-60 in the last few years, still lagging behind even the farther east soviet provinces permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I mean ya, but it's not that impressive, at that point it basically meant that the Chinese government stopped doing stuff that actively caused early death towards the very end of Mao's life permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcity@feddit.nl -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but transforming power structures doesn't equate to killing opponents. It is neither sufficient nor necessary. The success of some revolutions shouldn't be attributed to lethal violence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcity@feddit.nl -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, power vacuums permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcity@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Correlation does not equal causation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arcity@feddit.nl -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, power vacuums permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcity@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Correlation does not equal causation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcity@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Correlation does not equal causation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arcity@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Correlation does not equal causation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) World War II. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcity@feddit.nl -2 points 2 years ago Wars especially world wars are a whole lot more involved than just killing politicians. And not every party not even the victors stand to gain anything more than they loose permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arcity@feddit.nl -2 points 2 years ago Wars especially world wars are a whole lot more involved than just killing politicians. And not every party not even the victors stand to gain anything more than they loose permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orrk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) i wanna bet it's going to be "but we fought the Nazis" or some ML revolution shit that has never worked permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) the Russian and Cuban systems primarily changed due to modernization and not anything the system did (don't make the liberal mistake of assuming the advances of modernity are inherent to the system at the time), but China actually got Worse until it "liberalized" its markets and started pulling foreign capital investment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) it's important to look at these kinds of numbers in context, the average life expectancy for the vast majority of Mao's rule was around 30, only going up to 50-60 in the last few years, still lagging behind even the farther east soviet provinces permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I mean ya, but it's not that impressive, at that point it basically meant that the Chinese government stopped doing stuff that actively caused early death towards the very end of Mao's life permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcity@feddit.nl -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but transforming power structures doesn't equate to killing opponents. It is neither sufficient nor necessary. The success of some revolutions shouldn't be attributed to lethal violence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) the Russian and Cuban systems primarily changed due to modernization and not anything the system did (don't make the liberal mistake of assuming the advances of modernity are inherent to the system at the time), but China actually got Worse until it "liberalized" its markets and started pulling foreign capital investment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) it's important to look at these kinds of numbers in context, the average life expectancy for the vast majority of Mao's rule was around 30, only going up to 50-60 in the last few years, still lagging behind even the farther east soviet provinces permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I mean ya, but it's not that impressive, at that point it basically meant that the Chinese government stopped doing stuff that actively caused early death towards the very end of Mao's life permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcity@feddit.nl -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but transforming power structures doesn't equate to killing opponents. It is neither sufficient nor necessary. The success of some revolutions shouldn't be attributed to lethal violence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orrk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) the Russian and Cuban systems primarily changed due to modernization and not anything the system did (don't make the liberal mistake of assuming the advances of modernity are inherent to the system at the time), but China actually got Worse until it "liberalized" its markets and started pulling foreign capital investment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) it's important to look at these kinds of numbers in context, the average life expectancy for the vast majority of Mao's rule was around 30, only going up to 50-60 in the last few years, still lagging behind even the farther east soviet provinces permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I mean ya, but it's not that impressive, at that point it basically meant that the Chinese government stopped doing stuff that actively caused early death towards the very end of Mao's life permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) it's important to look at these kinds of numbers in context, the average life expectancy for the vast majority of Mao's rule was around 30, only going up to 50-60 in the last few years, still lagging behind even the farther east soviet provinces permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I mean ya, but it's not that impressive, at that point it basically meant that the Chinese government stopped doing stuff that actively caused early death towards the very end of Mao's life permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) it's important to look at these kinds of numbers in context, the average life expectancy for the vast majority of Mao's rule was around 30, only going up to 50-60 in the last few years, still lagging behind even the farther east soviet provinces permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I mean ya, but it's not that impressive, at that point it basically meant that the Chinese government stopped doing stuff that actively caused early death towards the very end of Mao's life permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I mean ya, but it's not that impressive, at that point it basically meant that the Chinese government stopped doing stuff that actively caused early death towards the very end of Mao's life permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I mean ya, but it's not that impressive, at that point it basically meant that the Chinese government stopped doing stuff that actively caused early death towards the very end of Mao's life permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arcity@feddit.nl -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but transforming power structures doesn't equate to killing opponents. It is neither sufficient nor necessary. The success of some revolutions shouldn't be attributed to lethal violence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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