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[+] zoostation@lemmy.world -35 points 2 years ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) Tech workers often don’t make enough money for it to make sense to live in the city long term unless it’s really important to them. If they have kids, this goes double. A lot of people commute from upstate and that is a hellish commute, even by train. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Aggy@kbin.social -9 points 2 years ago (4 children) Upstate commutes can definitely be rough. But it isn't the only 'affordable' places. Getting towards the end of subway lines in Brooklyn and Queens can be relatively affordable. I live in a 3 bedroom in Queens with a 3k rent and only 5 minute walk to the M. I don't commute but my partner does and it isn't too bad. There were other 3 bedrooms off the L we looked at this summer that would have been a much faster commute and some where down at like 2800. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago Jesus christ those prices are horrendous. permalink fedilink source parent [–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's double my monthly mortgage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) You have a $1400 mortgage? Where? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 7 points 2 years ago* I have a ~1000 mortgage on a 15 year loan for a 3 bedroom. Ohio. permalink fedilink source parent [–] feminalpanda@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago Mine is 985 for a 1800sqft house permalink fedilink source parent [–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Central PA permalink fedilink source parent [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Mine is a little less in rural mideast. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago WTF that's supposed to be cheap?? I think you've been living in NYC too long. Your perception is skewed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It is clear this general news sub has no frame of reference for NYC. A quick glassdoor check says a software engineer makes 100-160k base, with 25-50k bonus. And that is not including Sr Engineer or Architect titles. A one bedroom or two or 3 bedroom with a dual income in tech makes it affordable to live in the city. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah if you're spending 50% of your disposable income on rent, it's "affordable" Meanwhile I make similar money with WFH but I own a house with a mortgage less than half of that ridiculous rent rate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Good for you in minimizing cost and maximizing income. The point is the income is sufficient for NYC living, and a lot of people live very satisfactory lives in NYC with that salary. And part of the reason why you stay in NYC is because you enjoy what the cities offers, which can mean you like spending money on life style and going out. I have several friends that both rent in NYC and own homes in the Hudson Valley/Upstate. I have friends that max out their 401ks, pay rent, and still go out fairly often. I don't understand this false claim that tech workers can't afford the city, hate their lives here, and prefer to live out in the suburbs. That makes no sense. Plenty of tech workers make enough, and love the city, and continue to live here. The challenge is getting people sacrifice leaving their comfortable apartments and neighborhoods in brooklyn and queens to come the shit hole that is mid-town/times square. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aggy@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I'm wouldn't even spending a 1/3 of my income on that 3k rent. A programmer can very much afford to live in NYC quite comfortably while still saving for the future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) NYC has a housing crisis and MTA is frankly quite shit compared to most public transportation in the world. They have a lot of lines into Manhatten, which is good for NYT, but no circumferential traffic, and delays are frequent. MTA is massively underfunded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I think you mean corrupted... permalink fedilink source parent [–] DreddNYC@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most tech workers probably live in the suburbs and the public transit from the burbs into the city both suck and are insanely expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) In NYC? No. Edit: not sure why downvoted. I guess all these young families in Park Slope or 20 somethings living in the East Village or Williamsburg are lying when they say they are working in tech and appear to have pretty manageable and comfortable lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You'd be surprised, a lot of them are lying or living paycheck to paycheck because they're morons who don't know how to manage money or just want to blow it in fancy things like many dumb people do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So it's by choice, not because they are underpaid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) So because they have high salaries they need to work in an office? I'm not seeing how that's related. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So because they have high salaries they need to work in an office? I'm not seeing how that's related. Your comment is not related. This is an irrelevant take away. This comment is a thread from: "I can only imagine the hellish commute a NYT tech worker must endure. Let them work from wherever the fuck they want." No one is talking about salary. It's about the realty that subway (not to mention citi bike and the occasional uber) are easy ways to get around and not "hellish." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You want to know how long my commute is each morning? It's 30 seconds. Working remotely will do that for you. Anything else in comparison would feel hellish, yes, and I even used to commute to a job that was 15 minutes away from where I live as my first dev job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I am high salary work from home as well. I get it. But you did not respond to a thread about commute time. You responded about salary. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Motavader@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Dude. Have you ever ridden the NY subway? It sucks. And the bigger issue is the amount of time taken out of the day by a commute when it's not needed for the vast majority of tech workers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* It's a 24/7 subway. It is under funded. It's gotten worse with distressed folks. But it's pretty good relative to a lot of other US metros. And commutes always take time. So you can't fault a method of commuting for that. Look at shit like the green line in Boston or all these other half assed light rail solutions that share space with car traffic and get held up for auto congestion and traffic lights. NYC subway doesn't have that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Argonne@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago The subway does not suck. I hate using it, but that's not what they care about. It's about moving mass not comfort permalink fedilink source parent [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I feel guilty. Without a commute I haven't read this ever growing stack of New Yorkers and The Atlantic. I'm joking, but serious. Car commute is terrible. When you commute on half decent public transit, you can do shit and was kind of a part of my day to day rhythm. On good days it was almost meditative. But seriously, who the fuck are these trolls suggesting real tech workers don't live in NYC. Yeah, the dream is actually living in Jersey City said no one that has money in NYC permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RadicalCandour@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes please don’t come to Jersey city. The PATH is the stuff of commuting nightmares. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I don't know why I said Jersey City while thinking of my friends in Montclaire, but I'll stand by my original comment. Stop trying to get me to visit your apartment on a weekend train schedule, bro. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) Tech workers often don’t make enough money for it to make sense to live in the city long term unless it’s really important to them. If they have kids, this goes double. A lot of people commute from upstate and that is a hellish commute, even by train. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Aggy@kbin.social -9 points 2 years ago (4 children) Upstate commutes can definitely be rough. But it isn't the only 'affordable' places. Getting towards the end of subway lines in Brooklyn and Queens can be relatively affordable. I live in a 3 bedroom in Queens with a 3k rent and only 5 minute walk to the M. I don't commute but my partner does and it isn't too bad. There were other 3 bedrooms off the L we looked at this summer that would have been a much faster commute and some where down at like 2800. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago Jesus christ those prices are horrendous. permalink fedilink source parent [–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's double my monthly mortgage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) You have a $1400 mortgage? Where? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 7 points 2 years ago* I have a ~1000 mortgage on a 15 year loan for a 3 bedroom. Ohio. permalink fedilink source parent [–] feminalpanda@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago Mine is 985 for a 1800sqft house permalink fedilink source parent [–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Central PA permalink fedilink source parent [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Mine is a little less in rural mideast. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago WTF that's supposed to be cheap?? I think you've been living in NYC too long. Your perception is skewed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It is clear this general news sub has no frame of reference for NYC. A quick glassdoor check says a software engineer makes 100-160k base, with 25-50k bonus. And that is not including Sr Engineer or Architect titles. A one bedroom or two or 3 bedroom with a dual income in tech makes it affordable to live in the city. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah if you're spending 50% of your disposable income on rent, it's "affordable" Meanwhile I make similar money with WFH but I own a house with a mortgage less than half of that ridiculous rent rate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Good for you in minimizing cost and maximizing income. The point is the income is sufficient for NYC living, and a lot of people live very satisfactory lives in NYC with that salary. And part of the reason why you stay in NYC is because you enjoy what the cities offers, which can mean you like spending money on life style and going out. I have several friends that both rent in NYC and own homes in the Hudson Valley/Upstate. I have friends that max out their 401ks, pay rent, and still go out fairly often. I don't understand this false claim that tech workers can't afford the city, hate their lives here, and prefer to live out in the suburbs. That makes no sense. Plenty of tech workers make enough, and love the city, and continue to live here. The challenge is getting people sacrifice leaving their comfortable apartments and neighborhoods in brooklyn and queens to come the shit hole that is mid-town/times square. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aggy@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I'm wouldn't even spending a 1/3 of my income on that 3k rent. A programmer can very much afford to live in NYC quite comfortably while still saving for the future. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Aggy@kbin.social -9 points 2 years ago (4 children) Upstate commutes can definitely be rough. But it isn't the only 'affordable' places. Getting towards the end of subway lines in Brooklyn and Queens can be relatively affordable. I live in a 3 bedroom in Queens with a 3k rent and only 5 minute walk to the M. I don't commute but my partner does and it isn't too bad. There were other 3 bedrooms off the L we looked at this summer that would have been a much faster commute and some where down at like 2800. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago Jesus christ those prices are horrendous. permalink fedilink source parent [–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's double my monthly mortgage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) You have a $1400 mortgage? Where? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 7 points 2 years ago* I have a ~1000 mortgage on a 15 year loan for a 3 bedroom. Ohio. permalink fedilink source parent [–] feminalpanda@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago Mine is 985 for a 1800sqft house permalink fedilink source parent [–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Central PA permalink fedilink source parent [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Mine is a little less in rural mideast. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago WTF that's supposed to be cheap?? I think you've been living in NYC too long. Your perception is skewed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It is clear this general news sub has no frame of reference for NYC. A quick glassdoor check says a software engineer makes 100-160k base, with 25-50k bonus. And that is not including Sr Engineer or Architect titles. A one bedroom or two or 3 bedroom with a dual income in tech makes it affordable to live in the city. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah if you're spending 50% of your disposable income on rent, it's "affordable" Meanwhile I make similar money with WFH but I own a house with a mortgage less than half of that ridiculous rent rate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Good for you in minimizing cost and maximizing income. The point is the income is sufficient for NYC living, and a lot of people live very satisfactory lives in NYC with that salary. And part of the reason why you stay in NYC is because you enjoy what the cities offers, which can mean you like spending money on life style and going out. I have several friends that both rent in NYC and own homes in the Hudson Valley/Upstate. I have friends that max out their 401ks, pay rent, and still go out fairly often. I don't understand this false claim that tech workers can't afford the city, hate their lives here, and prefer to live out in the suburbs. That makes no sense. Plenty of tech workers make enough, and love the city, and continue to live here. The challenge is getting people sacrifice leaving their comfortable apartments and neighborhoods in brooklyn and queens to come the shit hole that is mid-town/times square. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aggy@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I'm wouldn't even spending a 1/3 of my income on that 3k rent. A programmer can very much afford to live in NYC quite comfortably while still saving for the future. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorque@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago Jesus christ those prices are horrendous. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's double my monthly mortgage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) You have a $1400 mortgage? Where? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 7 points 2 years ago* I have a ~1000 mortgage on a 15 year loan for a 3 bedroom. Ohio. permalink fedilink source parent [–] feminalpanda@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago Mine is 985 for a 1800sqft house permalink fedilink source parent [–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Central PA permalink fedilink source parent [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Mine is a little less in rural mideast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) You have a $1400 mortgage? Where? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 7 points 2 years ago* I have a ~1000 mortgage on a 15 year loan for a 3 bedroom. Ohio. permalink fedilink source parent [–] feminalpanda@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago Mine is 985 for a 1800sqft house permalink fedilink source parent [–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Central PA permalink fedilink source parent [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Mine is a little less in rural mideast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 7 points 2 years ago* I have a ~1000 mortgage on a 15 year loan for a 3 bedroom. Ohio. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] feminalpanda@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago Mine is 985 for a 1800sqft house permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Mine is a little less in rural mideast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago WTF that's supposed to be cheap?? I think you've been living in NYC too long. Your perception is skewed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It is clear this general news sub has no frame of reference for NYC. A quick glassdoor check says a software engineer makes 100-160k base, with 25-50k bonus. And that is not including Sr Engineer or Architect titles. A one bedroom or two or 3 bedroom with a dual income in tech makes it affordable to live in the city. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah if you're spending 50% of your disposable income on rent, it's "affordable" Meanwhile I make similar money with WFH but I own a house with a mortgage less than half of that ridiculous rent rate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Good for you in minimizing cost and maximizing income. The point is the income is sufficient for NYC living, and a lot of people live very satisfactory lives in NYC with that salary. And part of the reason why you stay in NYC is because you enjoy what the cities offers, which can mean you like spending money on life style and going out. I have several friends that both rent in NYC and own homes in the Hudson Valley/Upstate. I have friends that max out their 401ks, pay rent, and still go out fairly often. I don't understand this false claim that tech workers can't afford the city, hate their lives here, and prefer to live out in the suburbs. That makes no sense. Plenty of tech workers make enough, and love the city, and continue to live here. The challenge is getting people sacrifice leaving their comfortable apartments and neighborhoods in brooklyn and queens to come the shit hole that is mid-town/times square. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aggy@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I'm wouldn't even spending a 1/3 of my income on that 3k rent. A programmer can very much afford to live in NYC quite comfortably while still saving for the future. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah if you're spending 50% of your disposable income on rent, it's "affordable" Meanwhile I make similar money with WFH but I own a house with a mortgage less than half of that ridiculous rent rate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Good for you in minimizing cost and maximizing income. The point is the income is sufficient for NYC living, and a lot of people live very satisfactory lives in NYC with that salary. And part of the reason why you stay in NYC is because you enjoy what the cities offers, which can mean you like spending money on life style and going out. I have several friends that both rent in NYC and own homes in the Hudson Valley/Upstate. I have friends that max out their 401ks, pay rent, and still go out fairly often. I don't understand this false claim that tech workers can't afford the city, hate their lives here, and prefer to live out in the suburbs. That makes no sense. Plenty of tech workers make enough, and love the city, and continue to live here. The challenge is getting people sacrifice leaving their comfortable apartments and neighborhoods in brooklyn and queens to come the shit hole that is mid-town/times square. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aggy@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I'm wouldn't even spending a 1/3 of my income on that 3k rent. A programmer can very much afford to live in NYC quite comfortably while still saving for the future. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Good for you in minimizing cost and maximizing income. The point is the income is sufficient for NYC living, and a lot of people live very satisfactory lives in NYC with that salary. And part of the reason why you stay in NYC is because you enjoy what the cities offers, which can mean you like spending money on life style and going out. I have several friends that both rent in NYC and own homes in the Hudson Valley/Upstate. I have friends that max out their 401ks, pay rent, and still go out fairly often. I don't understand this false claim that tech workers can't afford the city, hate their lives here, and prefer to live out in the suburbs. That makes no sense. Plenty of tech workers make enough, and love the city, and continue to live here. The challenge is getting people sacrifice leaving their comfortable apartments and neighborhoods in brooklyn and queens to come the shit hole that is mid-town/times square. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aggy@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I'm wouldn't even spending a 1/3 of my income on that 3k rent. A programmer can very much afford to live in NYC quite comfortably while still saving for the future. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) NYC has a housing crisis and MTA is frankly quite shit compared to most public transportation in the world. They have a lot of lines into Manhatten, which is good for NYT, but no circumferential traffic, and delays are frequent. MTA is massively underfunded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I think you mean corrupted... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I think you mean corrupted... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DreddNYC@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most tech workers probably live in the suburbs and the public transit from the burbs into the city both suck and are insanely expensive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) In NYC? No. Edit: not sure why downvoted. I guess all these young families in Park Slope or 20 somethings living in the East Village or Williamsburg are lying when they say they are working in tech and appear to have pretty manageable and comfortable lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You'd be surprised, a lot of them are lying or living paycheck to paycheck because they're morons who don't know how to manage money or just want to blow it in fancy things like many dumb people do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So it's by choice, not because they are underpaid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Copernican@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) In NYC? No. Edit: not sure why downvoted. I guess all these young families in Park Slope or 20 somethings living in the East Village or Williamsburg are lying when they say they are working in tech and appear to have pretty manageable and comfortable lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You'd be surprised, a lot of them are lying or living paycheck to paycheck because they're morons who don't know how to manage money or just want to blow it in fancy things like many dumb people do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So it's by choice, not because they are underpaid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You'd be surprised, a lot of them are lying or living paycheck to paycheck because they're morons who don't know how to manage money or just want to blow it in fancy things like many dumb people do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So it's by choice, not because they are underpaid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So it's by choice, not because they are underpaid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) So because they have high salaries they need to work in an office? I'm not seeing how that's related. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So because they have high salaries they need to work in an office? I'm not seeing how that's related. Your comment is not related. This is an irrelevant take away. This comment is a thread from: "I can only imagine the hellish commute a NYT tech worker must endure. Let them work from wherever the fuck they want." No one is talking about salary. It's about the realty that subway (not to mention citi bike and the occasional uber) are easy ways to get around and not "hellish." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You want to know how long my commute is each morning? It's 30 seconds. Working remotely will do that for you. Anything else in comparison would feel hellish, yes, and I even used to commute to a job that was 15 minutes away from where I live as my first dev job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I am high salary work from home as well. I get it. But you did not respond to a thread about commute time. You responded about salary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Copernican@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) So because they have high salaries they need to work in an office? I'm not seeing how that's related. Your comment is not related. This is an irrelevant take away. This comment is a thread from: "I can only imagine the hellish commute a NYT tech worker must endure. Let them work from wherever the fuck they want." No one is talking about salary. It's about the realty that subway (not to mention citi bike and the occasional uber) are easy ways to get around and not "hellish." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You want to know how long my commute is each morning? It's 30 seconds. Working remotely will do that for you. Anything else in comparison would feel hellish, yes, and I even used to commute to a job that was 15 minutes away from where I live as my first dev job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I am high salary work from home as well. I get it. But you did not respond to a thread about commute time. You responded about salary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You want to know how long my commute is each morning? It's 30 seconds. Working remotely will do that for you. Anything else in comparison would feel hellish, yes, and I even used to commute to a job that was 15 minutes away from where I live as my first dev job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I am high salary work from home as well. I get it. But you did not respond to a thread about commute time. You responded about salary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I am high salary work from home as well. I get it. But you did not respond to a thread about commute time. You responded about salary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Motavader@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Dude. Have you ever ridden the NY subway? It sucks. And the bigger issue is the amount of time taken out of the day by a commute when it's not needed for the vast majority of tech workers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* It's a 24/7 subway. It is under funded. It's gotten worse with distressed folks. But it's pretty good relative to a lot of other US metros. And commutes always take time. So you can't fault a method of commuting for that. Look at shit like the green line in Boston or all these other half assed light rail solutions that share space with car traffic and get held up for auto congestion and traffic lights. NYC subway doesn't have that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Argonne@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago The subway does not suck. I hate using it, but that's not what they care about. It's about moving mass not comfort permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* It's a 24/7 subway. It is under funded. It's gotten worse with distressed folks. But it's pretty good relative to a lot of other US metros. And commutes always take time. So you can't fault a method of commuting for that. Look at shit like the green line in Boston or all these other half assed light rail solutions that share space with car traffic and get held up for auto congestion and traffic lights. NYC subway doesn't have that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Argonne@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago The subway does not suck. I hate using it, but that's not what they care about. It's about moving mass not comfort permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I feel guilty. Without a commute I haven't read this ever growing stack of New Yorkers and The Atlantic. I'm joking, but serious. Car commute is terrible. When you commute on half decent public transit, you can do shit and was kind of a part of my day to day rhythm. On good days it was almost meditative. But seriously, who the fuck are these trolls suggesting real tech workers don't live in NYC. Yeah, the dream is actually living in Jersey City said no one that has money in NYC permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RadicalCandour@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes please don’t come to Jersey city. The PATH is the stuff of commuting nightmares. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I don't know why I said Jersey City while thinking of my friends in Montclaire, but I'll stand by my original comment. Stop trying to get me to visit your apartment on a weekend train schedule, bro. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RadicalCandour@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes please don’t come to Jersey city. The PATH is the stuff of commuting nightmares. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I don't know why I said Jersey City while thinking of my friends in Montclaire, but I'll stand by my original comment. Stop trying to get me to visit your apartment on a weekend train schedule, bro. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I don't know why I said Jersey City while thinking of my friends in Montclaire, but I'll stand by my original comment. Stop trying to get me to visit your apartment on a weekend train schedule, bro. permalink fedilink source parent