▲ 1040 ▼ Jimmy Carter: The U.S. Is an “Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery” (theintercept.com) submitted 2 years ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/politics@lemmy.world 53 comments fedilink hide all child comments According to the former president, Americans are now experiencing "a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors."
[–] theodewere@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) because Americans are too ignorant and proud to recognize con-men permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] midori@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not all of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) But enough of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* Ain’t democracy grand? Ten people vote not to drive over a cliff, eleven people vote to drive over it, and everybody dies because them’s the rules. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago And too proud to realize they've been had. permalink fedilink source parent [–] markr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well also the torrent of money being spent to on propaganda to keep us utterly delusional has some role in this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theodewere@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago the real problem is the ease with which we can pass blame to other causes permalink fedilink source parent [–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Almost completely unaware of how to solve the problems meaningfully. Disillusioned with the legal voting process as being completely ineffectual to solve the problems, or any important problem for that matter. Our politics feels like more of a distraction than anything. Way too depressed and overworked and burnt out to try to think/work on any actual meaningful way to solve these extremely substantial and challenging problems. So unfortunately, I just live one day at a time, enjoy the little things, and wait until it's time to die. I honestly don't think we're going to get any meaningful change without extreme violence, extreme longterm hardship, and lots and lots of death and pain. But what do I know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] markr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) They want you to believe voting is useless. It isn’t. It remains the only effective peaceful strategy to reform the system. But you have to vote, and you have to participate and demand representation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] brezel@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* i think there really is a crisis regarding democracy (especially in the US but also in europe). it is very difficult to get enough media coverage and visibility unless you are a millionaire of friends with millionaires. it's almost like a closed club. i think what exacerbates the problem is that many americans view being a millionaire als being successful whereas in other places people who are excessively rich are rather viewed as reckless or corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been voting for 24 years. When will it start working? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] midori@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not all of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) But enough of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* Ain’t democracy grand? Ten people vote not to drive over a cliff, eleven people vote to drive over it, and everybody dies because them’s the rules. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) But enough of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* Ain’t democracy grand? Ten people vote not to drive over a cliff, eleven people vote to drive over it, and everybody dies because them’s the rules. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* Ain’t democracy grand? Ten people vote not to drive over a cliff, eleven people vote to drive over it, and everybody dies because them’s the rules. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago And too proud to realize they've been had. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] markr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well also the torrent of money being spent to on propaganda to keep us utterly delusional has some role in this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theodewere@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago the real problem is the ease with which we can pass blame to other causes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theodewere@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago the real problem is the ease with which we can pass blame to other causes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Almost completely unaware of how to solve the problems meaningfully. Disillusioned with the legal voting process as being completely ineffectual to solve the problems, or any important problem for that matter. Our politics feels like more of a distraction than anything. Way too depressed and overworked and burnt out to try to think/work on any actual meaningful way to solve these extremely substantial and challenging problems. So unfortunately, I just live one day at a time, enjoy the little things, and wait until it's time to die. I honestly don't think we're going to get any meaningful change without extreme violence, extreme longterm hardship, and lots and lots of death and pain. But what do I know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] markr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) They want you to believe voting is useless. It isn’t. It remains the only effective peaceful strategy to reform the system. But you have to vote, and you have to participate and demand representation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] brezel@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* i think there really is a crisis regarding democracy (especially in the US but also in europe). it is very difficult to get enough media coverage and visibility unless you are a millionaire of friends with millionaires. it's almost like a closed club. i think what exacerbates the problem is that many americans view being a millionaire als being successful whereas in other places people who are excessively rich are rather viewed as reckless or corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been voting for 24 years. When will it start working? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] markr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) They want you to believe voting is useless. It isn’t. It remains the only effective peaceful strategy to reform the system. But you have to vote, and you have to participate and demand representation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] brezel@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* i think there really is a crisis regarding democracy (especially in the US but also in europe). it is very difficult to get enough media coverage and visibility unless you are a millionaire of friends with millionaires. it's almost like a closed club. i think what exacerbates the problem is that many americans view being a millionaire als being successful whereas in other places people who are excessively rich are rather viewed as reckless or corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been voting for 24 years. When will it start working? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brezel@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* i think there really is a crisis regarding democracy (especially in the US but also in europe). it is very difficult to get enough media coverage and visibility unless you are a millionaire of friends with millionaires. it's almost like a closed club. i think what exacerbates the problem is that many americans view being a millionaire als being successful whereas in other places people who are excessively rich are rather viewed as reckless or corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago I’ve been voting for 24 years. When will it start working? permalink fedilink source parent